Whatever you say dude, you do you. If that’s what your sims say, go with that. My sims say otherwise. Even raidbots acknowledges that stat weights are constantly in flux and are never a fixed one over the other kind of thing. But a good rule of thumb is that primary stat is going to provide more than optimized secondaries for most specs. But as you already pointed out, the only way to be sure is to sim it and find out.
Your throughput is largely determined by your base stat - which is directly tied to your non jewelry Ilvl (weapon is your largest source, followed by trinkets if you target primary stat trinkets). Second would be trinkets, some of the have obnoxiously large portion of throughput tied to them for certain specs. Especially on use ones.
Tank trinkets in particular are incredibly valuable this season for example.
Anyway, If you are of an appropriate Ilvl, you can clear the content regardless of secondary mix. You should be simming your character, not strictly following that priority list as well. That list varies based on your current gear. It’s much easier to just chase Ilvl and consult the sim (or list of lazy) for stat priority.
You will also typically run a slightly different stat priority for some specs for raiding vs m+. Obviously you can clear both without pinnacle stating for the content you’re choosing to do.
I would not say this at all. Crit is incredibly important. Mastery is incredibly not important.
Rule of thumb is 10 ilevels of primary stat beats secondaries.
On my toon, according to Raidbots, the difference between +82 Master Enchant and a +82 Haste enchant is 100 DPS. Out of over 102K.
Since I don’t have 2 +82 Haste enchants on my toon, I’m giving up 467 DPS.
0.4%
Why am I not losing sleep over not having that?
I play healer priest and notice a huge difference in healing when I get my secondaries in order. For raid healing I go crit/mast and my echo of light healing is through the roof. For keys I go haste/vers and my heals and survivability drastically improves.
I have paid attention to secondaries and crafted 2 sets accordingly since BFA because I notice a difference and it is worth it to me.
Not sure how much of a difference it would be for you though. As others have said though, you got aotc and are probably fine. 
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bKGiLSGMzUZbtEPSRwSoLG
This is your current character with every single item you have equipped updated to a 20 ilvl higher item with opposite stats that spriest wants : crit/vers instead of haste/mastery.
36k less dps.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cWqxViWfwmVcrERfXxFbrV
Here’s your same character with max enchants, gems, and most items between 30-40 ilvls higher than what you are currently wearing.
3k less dps.
I made a claim and I have now backed it up with verifiable sources twice. You made a claim and are I am assuming going to stick with merely telling me that I am still wrong.
Secondary stats are the real primary stats.
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You removed my tier bonuses and wonder why my dps went down?
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simbot/report/ck9T975XqhD7PfY5ycuw7M
Here’s a sim that replaces only my wrists +20 ilvls with bad secondaries…+6900 dps increase
L2sim
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Also, crit/verse are now valued higher for me due to diminishing returns on haste/mast. My point is there isn’t a one size fits all regarding secondaries. They’ll change over time as your gear changes. But one thing will always be true. Primary > secondaries
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No. That’s nonsense. Learn how to optimize better.
Blizzard, please don’t listen to this person.
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Even with nearly 40 ilvls like I originally said and said nothing about tier bonuses, your dps went down. You’re just moving goal posts now.
And we add cherry picking. One item stand alone isn’t going to change anything, and like you said you actually would benefit from some crit/vers currently. This entire dialogue is about how much more value comes from secondaries (the correct ones for your class/spec) than from int/agi/str
Im aware that you only want a certain amount of stats. Devastation for example only wants around 5400 base unbuffed crit after which haste value skyrockets and vers/crit fall off. But once haste hits another specific threshold, it plummets too.
The point of my original comment wasn’t about the specifics of secondary stats though, it was that secondary stats are more primary than primary stats like int and agi. This is a point I have proven twice.
Maybe the third time will be the charm.
this is your character with full season 4 tier set, and 20 ilvls higher, AND your weapon/offhand AND your trinkets all 20 ilvls higher too, only your neck, rings, bracer, boots, and your one piece of armor that wasn’t tier are now crit/vers and again 20 ilvls higher.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qaEG7zSxVU7L1v6y18oPV5
and you still LOST 3k dps. What more proof do you need? If you refute this you’re either trolling or have some god levels of willful ignorance. I get it being proven wrong feels bad, I didn’t want this - you asked for it.
Anyways I won’t be replying to you any further, you’ve already stolen enough of my time I refuse to give you any more.
In 517 ilvl my secondaries are worth 14.2-14.6 per point.
Int is 15.5.
Int is still worth more. The other dude is making the claim that 20 ilvl increase across the board is a 20K DPS loss while neglecting to point out he is also removing tier bonuses. It’s wildly disingenuous.
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Please look at my most recent post where I re-added the bonuses and it was still a 3k dps loss.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qaEG7zSxVU7L1v6y18oPV5
To be quite honest unless you are pushing high high content secondaries don’t matter, also at this point in the expansion a lot of your stats are hitting diminishing returns anyways. Item level and your main stat (strength/agility/intell) is the big thing.
I just enjoy the feel of haste so I will stack that until the cows come home
Slightly more, yes. Not 2-3x more.
This is not the case with resto shamans. Mastery is usually undesired because it gives a bonus to healing of low HP targets. That is nice to have, but not as crucial as the other three.
Crit is a resto shaman’s way of regenerating mana (the set bonus is also centered around crit), haste reduces cast time and increases the HoT tick rate, versatility increases throughput. Damage doesn’t figure into it.
OP won’t have a good time healing with the shaman if his crit is low.
No, it’s not good for elemental shamans. Elemental shamans currently want mastery (lots of it), haste, and little else. Enhancement shamans also don’t really want crit. It’s only resto shamans that want crit.
Oh, for sure. I just find that misrepresentation of truth a whole lot less egregious than the other dude, which is why I’m less keen on picking at that.
Did you bother reading my post? You very clearly didn’t.