Specifically I am going to ask in terms of class/race combos,
do you value the lore, and coherency of your character in it, over your ability to make characters of your choosing?
Would you support a change to the game to make it so that any race could become any class?
If so, what would you play and to what extent do you think gameplay should triumph over lore?
If not, what is your favorite lore moment and to what extent would you be willing to sacrifice lore for gameplay?
This is a Family Circus route you’re taking to talk about all race/class combos.
Gameplay vs. lore comes into play for stuff like… giving us the resurrection spell. In lore it’s extremely rare for someone to be rez’d (fully back to life, not undead) but for us we can cast it over and over.
I don’t see the need to (for example) retcon the Draenei’s backstory to give them Warlocks.
but what I’m asking is not retconing the story, but rather I’m asking how you would feel if they just said screw the story, any race can be any class even if it doesn’t make sence, you’re just one of the rare never-seen-in-lore warlock draenei that definitely exist but we don’t need to explain how.
I do not remember the last time I read a quest in WoW, now in EQ you use to have to read and figure out the keywords until the quest was posted on a website. So I have been in the habit of not reading quest in rpg’s for a long time. Maybe when something finally dethrones this game I will enjoy the story again. I prefer balance gameplay over story any day.
But you are. The playable eredar (both of them) are a group of beings that refused to use fel magic and were exiled for it. And the eredar that didn’t refuse joined the Legion. So to spawn into the game as a Draenei Warlock stepping off the crashed ship makes no sense.
Now, I’m not saying I wouldn’t absolutely love an eredar Warlock but I would rather Blizzard add them in as part of an allied race and not where they make zero sense.
As I’ve said, what if they say screw the lore, don’t explain how this is happening, don’t make a retcon just don’t explain it and leave it there as a character customization tool.
As you said yourself, resurrection in lore is extremely rare, but just because our characters can do it a lot doesn’t mean that they’ve retconed that it actually is common, they just didn’t explain why our characters can do something so rare, not a retcon, just ignoring the lore for gameplay reasons
For me it’s always story and restrictions but Blizz have changed things a lot.
I heard there was huge resistance when Blizz made Shammy and Paly for both faction
and we have Void Elf priest, Undead priest, Lightforged Draenei Death Knight, etc, etc.
Story fans try to find lore ground about it but it’s hard and stressful. well that’s something Blizz should’ve provided when the class/race was introduced anyway
And I think eventually wow will be like all race all class all armors…
but I don’t think I will be playing this game then. Cos lots of things would be ruined already before they do something like that. lol.
so when we adding the blood elf minigame where they have to consume mana every day or else the character will wither away over time, whether you’re playing or not.
There is obviously always going to be some times gameplay literally HAS to be valued more than lore.
I never said they were retcons, nor did I oppose Orc Priests.
As for LFD - Lightforging changes your biology pretty fundamentally, making you functionally immortal among other things. I don’t think animating them as undead as though they are normal draenei makes a ton of sense. Just my opinion.
You ignored the whole second part about how I showed that just giving our characters something isn’t necessarily changing the lore in any way. But sure, stay delusional.
Keep in mind that the Exile’s Reach intro removes the need to explain things like “X stepped off the crashed ship.” You can have Draenei of other classes that weren’t part of the initial Exodar escape because of that.
I’m not saying I care about Draenei Warlocks one way or the other, but if they wanted to introduce playable “Eredar” who came to Azeroth, that’s one way to do it.