Waycrest manor has more difficult mechanics then BWL. Jesus anyone saying anything in Classic is hard is delusional or just bad.
People who completed Mythic Uu’nat are going to goto sleep playing Classic endgame.
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Yes.
Yes.
Any modern day raiders who clear mythic will laugh at classic raids.
You’d be wrong.
No, probably not.
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I’m talking level 60 dude it was rough doing that raid ,then prove it that it wasn’t.And there are no mythic raiders in classic wow.
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People who do Mythic raiding in Live before any nerfs are on a different level from normal humans. Their blood is basically red bull and I am convinced some of them have cybernetic implants to have the reaction times they do.
Classic WoW was designed around 56k internet connections and 320p level of graphics.
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You’re not that quick are you.
Mythic raiders, from retail, who go back and play classic servers, will destroy those raids.
LFR bosses have the same number of mechanics as classic bosses did. In fact, some, such as Uu’nat, have more than almost every classic boss did.
Classic raids are, mechanically and tuning-wise, about as hard as lfr-normal is today.
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Savory deviate delight didn’t work?
You will know you’ve been there, and you will probably die -often-.
Razorgore had a metric ton of adds running around… Those adds loved going over and hitting healers or Razorgore himself. No healers means it is a wipe because adds will just start killing people one by one, and if you make it to Razorgore himself his cleave and conflagration will out damage what healers are left standing. Razorgore dying means it is a wipe because when he goes down he automatically wipes the raid.
Vaelastrasz was super annoying because he pumped out a lot of damage and burning adrenaline was very random. It is a timed fight with a buff that lasts only three minutes, so DPS has to be pumping out the maximum damage but the tank has to keep tight control of him. If one of the DPS pulled aggro Vaelastrasz would turn and more often than not hit the rest of the raid with a cleave or fire breath attack. Most of the time I recall this scenario being an automatic wipe. Even if it wasn’t an obvious wipe right off the bat it became obvious that it was later as DPS wasn’t enough to beat the expiration of the buff, heals became totally insufficient to keep the raid up, or there were no longer enough tanks and he’d just go down the aggro list killing people.
As I already said - People think these two bosses were easy, but at the time they were not. The machanics were simple but the game was very different then and there was a lot to manage with 39 other people in the raid besides yourself.
Final note — One of the guilds that tested BWL was apparently on my server and they gave us some advice on Razorgore when we rolled in to try to killing him. They told us that they just killed all the adds during the fight, we tried the same but we were not successful. To this day I still do not know how they managed the feat of killing that many adds.
We finally had to have our warriors kite the stupid adds around the room in long strings while we blew up all the eggs.
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It will not be as hard as it was originally but only because of certain changes that 1.12 brings that did not exist at its release. I am assuming these raids will still be more challenging than many seem to think.
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I agree. Not as hard as changes after its release eased things a bit, but I think people are in for a bit of a surprise when it is harder than they thought it was going to be.
People sucked back then, not so much now, doubt it’ll be ‘‘as hard’’ as then in all honesty.
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I’m betting Black Wing Lair will be just as difficult in Classic as it was before when WoW first came out.
One boss I can see groups having issues is the first one because of a person needing to control the boss to kill the eggs while rest of raid deals with adds.
Anyone doing “Classic” content today for bragging rights is completely missing the point. To anyone who has been playing WoW for a while, none of the content should be considered very hard. We all know the encounters, can plan ahead to collect the required gear, and there will likely be a variety of new addons available for people who don’t know how to play WoW, just like it is in retail.
Don’t let the streamers fool you. There is no reason to get a “world first” in Classic, whether it’s first to level 60, first to clear a raid, or first to get an item. It has all been done before.
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People keep taking about how LFR and heroic dungeons have more mechanics then vanilla raids.
Thats true but its also missing the point entirely.
Classic raids were not hard because of mechanics, classic raids were hard because a great number of them were hard gear checks and you had 40 people to gear with very few ways to get that gear.
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I think anyone who thinks LFR today is harder than BWL was then is grossly miscalculating BWL difficulty. Any boss you can kill with randoms not even being in the same voice chat is no where near BWL level. Just the run backs and rebuffing after wipes will discourage a lot of the modern raiders lol.
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People will learn to kite…period end of story. To hunters who don’t know bring 2 weapons cause one gets broke maybe 2 if you can’t down him fast enough and Tranq shot is a thing you better learn to use.
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I find the idea of “world firsts” in classic wow to be comically absurd. It has already long since been accomplished. The content is already well known and already long since completed.
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Yep resistance is a thing you can’t just heal through some of the dots…
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This is wrong, but nice try!
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Considering the wide spread “man, things dont hit as hard as I remember”, I fully expect this to extend into BWL.
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