How Group Loot Only is going to go for pugs:

[Jbob-hyjal]

*EDIT: It’s not going to go well.

[Drunkbuddha-stormrage]

@Jbob-hyjal

Had a DK rolling need on everything from 2H Intellect staves that dropped off trash

Ok? And?..

[Heratic-ysera]

@Jbob-hyjal

A lot of players, not every single one but a large majority, are just going to roll Need on things that they don’t need. Whether it’s Green, Blue or Purple quality gear.

This is the way it was back before personal loot came into the game. I haven’t kept up with what’s coming out with this new expansion. I am disappointed that they are going to make players go through the endless “need” rolling again.

[Tyzzi-zuljin (Tyzzi)]

Group loot IS going to suck in pugs, but they did make changes to prevent a lot of what you are suggesting:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/en/wow/t/changes-experiments-to-raid-rewards-in-dragonflight-season-1/1352473/363

[Paen-area-52]

@Jbob-hyjal

This just happened last night during a dungeon in Classic… Had a DK rolling need on everything from 2H Intellect staves that dropped off trash,

You’re forgetting that new group loot doesnt work like it did in WotLK. This can’t happen.

[Thallia-sentinels (Thallia)]

@Jbob-hyjal

not every single one but a large majority, are just going to roll Need on things that they don’t need.

Except they can’t.

@Jbob-hyjal

Had a DK rolling need on everything from 2H Intellect staves that dropped off trash, to Mail boots that dropped from the boss.

Go read the rules of how the new grouo loot works before you make stuff up based off of classic.

[Tinytea-zuljin]

If they can equip it, doesnt that mean they get the ability to need roll? I am confused

[Thrymyrden-stormrage]

You didn’t read their post explaining how group loot will work and now you’re getting mad over nothing. Typical forum poster

[Paen-area-52]

Firstly, DK’s can’t equip Staves.
and secondly, no.

to summarize:

@Scariizard-1547

• First off, you can never Need for anything your class cannot wear. No warriors sniping cloth robes with a need roll and giving it away or trolling.
• We also have mainspec and offspec functionality built-in, which changes based on the current loot spec you set.
• Main spec takes priority, then Off spec, then greed. So while a Ret paladin can’t off-spec loot a shield away from a main-spec roll from the Tank, anyone rolling greed could never win it over them. This also means that if you swap specs for a specific fight, like going Holy, you can still main spec roll for your desired items if they come from that boss without having to worry about hurting yourself by being flexible to your group.
• Players won’t be able to win multiples of the same item - say that 2 sets of Shoulders drop. While you can roll Need on both of them, winning one will ‘remove’ your roll from the other.
• Additionally, players can’t Need on a piece of loot if they’re wearing the exact piece at the exact item level, though in the event where this occurs but the dropped piece has a Tertiary stat or Socket, that roll would be possible (as those are upgrades).

[Kharneus-dalaran (Kharneus)]

I say we give it a shot. They’ve made a lot of changes to it and will probably keep iterating on it. And I’m curious to see how it pans out. I do believe there should be an option for Personal Loot though.

[Tinytea-zuljin]

thank you for taking the time to post that and teach me!

I had the wrong idea and assumed it was exactly like it was in the past. I am eager to see how the general population reacts after trying it for a little bit

[Jbob-hyjal]

Nice! Thanks for the link. I haven’t been keeping up to date with DF features as I have zero interests in playing it and was just going off of the GD forum spam about the “new” Group Loot feature of the expansion!

[Squishlee-zuljin]

Tell me you didn’t read any of how group loot is going to work without telling me you didn’t read any of how group loot is going to work.

[Jbob-hyjal]

@Thrymyrden-stormrage

Typical forum poster

And I took that personally

[Jbob-hyjal]

Hey Thallia, any updates on Clark? Been wondering how he’s doing after his thread got 404’ed

[Shantarin-kelthuzad]

@Jbob-hyjal

This just happened last night during a dungeon in Classic… Had a DK rolling need on everything from 2H Intellect staves that dropped off trash, to Mail boots that dropped from the boss. Even when they could clearly see that the entire group was rolling Greed.

Why was the rest of the group voluntarily rolling greed if they did actually need it?

[Shantarin-kelthuzad]

No, it’s dumber than that.

He’s describing a BOE drop.

[Jbob-hyjal]

No like in Wrath Classic it’s just the standard Group Loot. Anyone can roll Need/Greed on any loot that drops regardless of their Class or Spec. He was answering a question for someone who asked in a post above.

[Jbob-hyjal]

But it really doesn’t even matter because the Group Loot in Dragonflight will be different than the Group Loot of any other expansion.

[Shantarin-kelthuzad]

Everyone can roll on BOE gear regardless of type. That’s how it worked prior to personal loot. He was upset the guy need rolled a BOE 2 handed Int Staff that dropped off trash mobs.