All of the beta footage that I’ve seen, everyone is staying in tier 3/rank 14 all the way up to level 70. Is it better than the quest rewards?
The majority of quest rewards won’t be as good as the level 60 end game gear. If you’re in full T3 you won’t replace anything until level 70 and you get your new pre-raid BiS.
But if you’re in molten core gear, then you’ll be replacing stuff by time you leave the quests of hellfire penn.
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Only thing i can comment on, is that i had a full tier 2.5 and tier 3 geared warrior on a private server at level 60, replacing gear whenever something better was available and when i hit 69 i was still wearing over half of the 60 epics.
There are some pieces that you will acquire while levelling that have gem slots and are better than vanilla gear, but some vanilla gear will stay equipped until heroics and into kara.
The difference between T3 and T4 is about the same as the difference between T1 and T2.
Its fully intended you can take your endgame classic gear intro kara.
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pretty solid till 70 for the most part
Tier 3 is good enough to start raiding with as it’s equivilent to or slightly less valued than pre-raid BiS.
GM/HWL gear is complete trash aside from the weapons and should be replaced asap.
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GM/hwl gear won’t be replaced until 70 dungeons and heroics.
It holds up pretty well from the questing gear.
https://www.engadget.com/2007-10-29-first-illidan-china-kill-by-the-seven.html
As many are noting, lots of players are still dressed up in Tier 3 gear, which means they just barrelled right through SSC and TK up into the Black Temple.
Tiers 3 is that good and doesn’t prevent you to reach far into the raid content. Ofc, you won’t be full T3 and will replace it when you can.
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Like all gear, it depends on the set bonus, what you’re using it for and overall usefulness.
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Ay that’s my warrior
Theres a heap of leveling dungeon blues that are far superior, but I guess thats on a class by class and spec by spec basis. I looked into it on my shaman and the hance gear definitely has a limited life span.
The step into better designed and itemized gear is just… well, awesome.
The R14 weapons (or AQ40/Naxx if you have them) will last to 70 at least. I don’t see anything else really making that far, though, unless you have some really spicy gear.
the pvp hance gear isn’t exactly terrible but compared to whats available… it just stands out as something I’d be aiming to replace by the mid 60’s.
I’ve said it before but my GM mainhanded lasted me till a Blinkstrike came up at a reasonable price on the AH.
Naxx gear will be enough to clear tier 4 in week 1 without a heap of heroic/lvl 70 dungeon grinding. Various pieces here and there from AQ 40would fit the same bill.
Naxx weapons are on par with non-epic dungeon weapons.
Oh at least. There’ll probably be pieces that stay and last due to bad drop luck and not a lot of variety, but it’s nothing to sweat about. Especially for me, as I’m Ally and will at most farm the axes.
It definitely can, but we can easily get our near-BiS or BiS weapons by crafting them. Currently the PPM is really bad for the hammers (0.8), and the buff is replaced by other haste effects (which should be a bug), so the axes look better even for non-Orcs.
Too bad they’re really ugly though.
Oh no doubt, T4 isn’t terribly difficult and T3 is still good. People will definitely be replacing pieces though, especially if the set bonuses are negligible.
As I’ll be rerolling from scratch I’ll be running it in greens and blues if we do it fast enough.
So in theory getting a DST is better bet? as it has a better haste proc and better ppm? sheesh… will see if this bug holds up, failing that I have a blacksmithing kit ready to go or sell…
So far it doesn’t seem like it’s intentional (we seem to have old footage of the buffs stacking), but all three (hammers, haste pot, DST) share the same buff name - “Haste”. So it’s quite possibly they simply do not stack and it’s not a bug. Time is definitely going to tell, but if that’s the case, it hurts DST a lot.
As you’re an Orc, the axes are still BiS in T4 - there’s a possibly they are in T5 as well, or perhaps an OH mace for the buff (due to Haste getting better and better as gear gets better) with a T5 MH. There’s still lots of testing to do and no word from Blizzard yet.
It’s kind of a bummer though. The difference won’t be huge for non-Orcs, but it’s not clear anymore. For the hammers to beat the axes (or at least, be on par) in T4 it needed 1.0 PPM for non-Orcs and 1.5 PPM for Orcs.
Quick answer: Mostly yes.
Slightly less quick answer: There are a few key pieces for each class/spec that will be go-to pre-Heroics and pre-Kara items even if you’re in T3, simply because they feature heavy sockets or stat allocations that are hard to find. However, if you just mindlessly charged forward to 70 in full T3 or Naxx equivalent, you’d be just fine and your overall stats would be very similar to someone in several pieces of lvl70 5man gear and even Heroic gear.
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As a feral I’d replace the majority of my gear before stepping into kara. You know, because Blizzard didn’t bother providing proper feral itemization during classic. I wager that’s probably the same with the other classic meme specs.
Warrriors, mages, locks, etc are probably fine wearing T3 until they get their T4/kara gear.
Most warrior tanking gear is Kara with a few exceptions here and there in heroics. I think there’s one or two l70 quest blues mixed in there.
Tier 2 really doesn’t get replaced until about 67ish.
Tier 1 is Zanger
People that get UGs right away are mostly ZG/AQ20 folks.
Depending on class/spec yes