Long time shammy, I hated DF Elemental, so wondering how it plays now? Same or like an earlier Xpac?
Still too many buttons. They tried to trim it but enhance is still bloated af.
A lot of buttons but it cracks
Dunno why everyone always complains about the button bloat, its not even that bad rn. Depending on build you have between 6-8 commonly pressed dmg buttons, that’s not as trivial as a 4 button spec, but enhance should never be that
It’s one of the most fun melees, but there are some improvements to be made
i tried enhance and my god, its even more buttons than before the so called removal of some abilitieslol
I think as shamans you can’t complain about totems or weapon buffs as extra buttons because then you’ll lose a major identify. I don’t think Enhancement has more actionable buttons than Warrior (Arms) or DH or even UDK for example.
It’s certainly not Ret and Devastation, for sure.
Totems aren’t what they used to be. They are active cooldowns and important utility tools.
I would say they warrant being off the gcd purely for the sake of me not missing every god damn grounding or tremor. Enh is so gcd deprived it can be really hard to squeeze in a global for a totem. And nothing is worse than wasting a grounding bc u missed the spell by one gcd.
Worse GCD I hate wasting on is Flame Shock. Why in the nine levels of Maw do we still have it on ENHANCEMENT?!
When enh was less gcd intense people non-stop complained about “downtime” aka time we had open to use our utility without sacrificing throughput.
I wish shocks were spenders for enh and spending on them gave extra effects. LB is “meh” and I hate how heavily damage is skewed toward LB/Tempest/EleBlast.
The new stormbringer build doesn’t feel bloated at all to me. You have 3 buttons that you’d use a builders (one of them has almost no priority) 2 spenders 1 for ST 1 for AoE (just need to watch for tempest proc to change what your AoE spender is) and 3 offensive CDs.
A 1 minute a 2 minute and one that floats between about 30 seconds to a minute depending on procs and tempo (could swap it to rng if you wanted)
The only thing that enhance feels like its lacking right now is good survivability. It has decent CDs but outside of them they’re made of paper. Maybe if totemic recall could reset stone bulwark it could fill the gap. That or drop wall from 40% to 30% and reduce the CD to a minute.
(Sorry I know a lot of forums people are only PVP people this is a PVE perspective)
Yea I miss when our resources were tied to ability cooldowns rather than treating them all like different flavor sinister strikes to spam spenders. MSW used to be a nice proc to mix up the rotation a bit and not be 35-50% of our dmg. Felt good when strikes/shocks were on cd and could use utility totems etc.
There is a misconception that there is button bloat in the community. Are there a lot of buttons you CAN press? Absolutely. Will you press all of them? Situationally. For the most part, meta builds right now revolve around flameshock a enemy,
spreading flame shock with lava lash, spamming storm strike, generating maelstrom stacks, spending stacks on lightning bolt or chain lightning.
And then you have cooldowns you will press on occasion (ascendance, doom winds, feral wolves). There are more buttons but everything above is your core stuff. The extra stuff is the utilty that shamans provide and is yhr selling point of our class.
I don’t get it either, I feel like I press more buttons on my demo warlock than my enhance sham…
Theres more utility buttons but rotationally it isn’t bad at all.
Would rather have this many buttons than ever be like the old havoc DH, apparently some people want us to be a 2 button spec or something
Enhance now has two good builds to go with. Both Stormbringer and Totemic are viable in all content. I play a Totemic Storm build currently and its a ton of fun. Now that Heroic Queen is down, I guess we will try our hand at Mythic content.
True both builds could use some weeks, but I think we as Enhancement Shamans are in a decent place.
As for Ele, I dropped it and went Enhancement midway through DF, so I am not sure what they have going on besides what I read here.
Enhance is still my favorite melee spec in the game. I think they have made the ele version worse with the poorly thought out nerfs to p wave but the storm build is really fun right now.
I miss elementalist build. Might cancel until that comes back. Storm build is so boring to me.
I think thorims, and by extension Ascendance, needs overhauled. That entire branch must be purged for the sake of the rest of the kit.
If they don’t want to buff Splintered then maybe they move Pwave somewhere else and make a new branch there.
I personally am still really unhappy with it and play it very casually because it was my main since wrath. I feel there are a lot of good changes, feral lunge base line, making ascendance 2 min CD, WF to skyfury, Valtaic Blaze. etc, but it’s still unnecessarily busy with too many buttons. I personally like to see PW gone (Voltaic Blaze superior), and bring the spec back to something similar to SL season 1. But that’s just me.
I think the just need to remove pwave as an endcap talent, maybe they move it further into the tree and bake in splintered or something since it seems to just be an instant pick every time now in the endcaps of the tree and then they create a more interesting less locked in talent for an endcap to compete with ascendance.
But I know some people hate pwave so much they would not like it being earlier in the tree because they do not want to feel forced to use it but idc.