How do you lose a single game as ret paladin

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legit most giga training wheel spec the game has ever seen in 20 years

if you have less than a 75% win rate as a ret paladin your game should be automatically uninstalled

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You realize you play bm hunter right?

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nope i only play broken specs

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I’m pretty sure most ret paladins lose because they think they need to be in melee range 100% of the time and forget that they’re a caster now.

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Same exact thing can be said about BM as well… So you answer your own question and POOF, you have your answer.

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Should honestly just remove Sanc, and disallow BoP/freedom from being usable on allies while in Ret/Prot spec. Ret feels so wild because of what it brings to the game as they double a DPS/support role.

Being a DPS class with great personal defensives, and minor team-aid abilities (single LoH, or shocking team mates) would more closesly have them resemble the limitations of other specs, IMO.

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Made me laugh out loud.

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i tried to play ret, feels clunky to play

also long global cd, its indeed a free rating spec, but also weird to play in the same time

overloaded with utility, but the Dmg breakdown feels weird, 90% of the stuff is rnd passive dot´s, it feels like, i have no targeted killing opportunity, but smh this class out ult most of the other classes

shuffle dampe is high both your team mate and your enemy are at 20% hp? ez lay on hands win

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They would need to do massive changes to how it plays if they did that, if ret didn’t have the team utility buttons, there would be almost zero difference between a 2k ret and a 2500 ret.

Edit: I think the part people don’t like about sanctuary is that it’s the only ability of its type (berserker roar, tremor) that removes stuns. If they removed that portion of the ability, I don’t think it would be half as frustrating to deal with.

Also I’ve always been in favor of sanctuary being changed to not remove cc’s, but still reduce future ones (like war banner). This would make it far far more skillful, as well as easier to counter play, instead of the current second healer trinket version.

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basically would just turn into the modern sub rogue

:skull:

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That’s fair. Just feels like Ret’s biggest communal issue is their ability to immune their team from other people’s kits. I was just spitballing, I’m sure someone more adept could give a more polished answer.

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Yeah in my opinion there are a couple changes they could do: change sanc like I said above, make our immunities pacify or reduce damage output in some way, or make divine protection and shield of vengeance base 2 min cds, reduced to 1.5 minutes with a talent.

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if you get a lobby with another paladin its GG lol

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was ret always this braindead? there is a rumor they are gonna make all classes like this as addons get removed

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Yeah? The spec was designed for newbies who were confused by BM hunter pet management.

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They can have the team utility, they just don’t need the dmg too.
The amount of dmg they’re doing on top of the kit is ridiculous