How do you guys feel about VDH?

I come across a lot of posts about VDH, I also post about them and things I would like to see improved. I honestly think VDH is a decent tank but is a bit janky. The talent tree feels kind of bad because you are required to take only two types of builds, or you cannot tank. I.e., the last resort/demon spikes build or the high skill cap fiery brand build. Which unless you’re a CE player or RWF player I do not recommend that build. The 99% of wow players should run the last resort build as it is less punishing for missing proper cool down rotations.

I would like to see more viability in an absorb type build and make talents like soul monger more viable in high end content. Maybe more baseline DR% reduction like we had initially. Maybe give blur back as well to fill the void when demon spikes, meta and FB are on CD.

What would you guys aka the normal wow player like to see changed with VDH?

Oh yeah VDH in pvp is like God awful it’s not viable imo.

an absorb type of build is kind of what the devs seem to have been planning for, except what we got is terrible:

  • ruinous bulwark doesnt do anything meaningful when playing demonic
  • soulmonger is not only notoriously bugged but also doesn’t align well with our kit at all
  • soul barrier has been neglected the entirety of SL and BFA – although Reaping Hour was a great trait that I’d love to see coming back

all these can be relatively simply fixed:

  • change Ruinous Bulwark to something else. right now it will never see play unless Demonic falls out of fashion which is unlikely; e.g. combine Roaring Fire into it
  • revert soulmonger to what it was in BFA
  • revert Soul Barrier to what it was in Legion
  • add a Reaping Hour talent that eg replaces Ruinous Bulwark position-wise and otherwise possiby replaces Soul Barrier as active
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