Does anyone have a sure fire way of finding out if someone you’re going to invite is a boosted player? I keep trying to run keys and the groups I’m in continue wiping because players who are 2k+ io score can’t do basic mechanics. Have any of you found a way to distinguish the players who earned it from the players who bought it?
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Look at thier key history and see how many keys they have timed.
If there is a huge jump from say timings 5s to 1 of each 15…that’s a huge red flag
The more timed keys a person has at the level you’re running, the more likely they know what they are doing.
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This late in the season and with pugs out gearing 15s by 20+ ilvl, I doubt you’re running into people who paid to boost. It’s probably just good old fashioned bad play.
Lower key completion can be a good indication, if you suck 90% of the time but someone else does all the work for you (cc, kicks, dispels, cd and covenant management) 10% of the time then you’ll eventually get a higher score. But most of the time a high amount of timed keys = good. Unless you get binkle.
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Just a but in…
If a group wants to join yours, and the leader will do all three roles.
You are 75% sure that at least one is not real, but a follow bot.
Pick your friends outside of mythic+…
vet them in IO.
Keys they’ve run, completed/timed, etc.
Inspect them and check their gear and see if there’s consistency to their stats or is it all over the place, like someone had no idea what they were doing.
Then if you take a chance on them, they may be a bad player or they may be boosted when you see them in game and they don’t use their tool kit…glares at Hunters
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People like you are the reason other’s boost.
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Check logs, check their key history and who they pushed keys with, check their achievements, then kick them out of the guild when you found out they bought carries and lied about it.
It’s not hard to see the lvl someone plays at and their skill lvl. Same goes for pvp.
look up there raider IO. Best is get the raider IO addon so you can right click on it and it’ll give you a link to their raider IO toon web page.
From there look up the runs they did and who they run w/. If most of their runs are w/ overpowered toons w/ high IO then you cna pretty much tell it’s a carried toon
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- Check their IO
- Look at the logs
- Kick them from the guild
- Check history
- Blah blah blah
No wonder this game is losing customers, smh.
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Ask them Bush light or Dos Equis?
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Everyone in wow is a boosted noob.
Either you are boosted by buying it, or by the ridiculous leveling experience.
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What exactly is the cutoff at which a player stops being a “noob”? Is it measured in weeks?
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The more of a stat you get, the lower its weight. Not all classes spam 1 stat endlessly.
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There’s not really a way to tell. With the suggestions by the paid carrier, your group quality tanks dramatically. I mostly try to build groups of people who have done their gems and enchants, I find this to be the most reliable. Io score, reading the tea leaves in the Io score, it is like 25% accurate, whereas simply looking at which enchants and gems the person has on is like 75% accurate.
I want to see end game move away from perpetual stat boosting so boosted noobs aren’t crapping up every aspect of the end game. Should have set a fixed upper bound to stats 15 years ago and balanced the combat around that. We could have had balanced pvp and meaningfully competitive pve by now. The reason WoW esports are so boring is because they are not an esport, they are mostly just whoever can abuse the worst glitch caused by wildly fluctuating stats or who can get the best RNG wins. It is all a sham meant to trick people into buying carries.
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That is a huge problem in WOW in my opinion.
People have turned this game into a 2nd job instead of having fun.
Imagine a new player coming here and you got people treating you as if you’re applying for a job, its ridicules.
You know, I see a repeat of history and this is what happened to EQ1 and all the other MMOs before WOW came out. They all had this raid or die mentality for everything and then WOW killed it with a casual friendly game for everyone. It’s done a full circle right back to what people hated in the past. This game is going to continue to bleed customers like never before. These people running the game are beyond terrible.
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At this stage in game there ain’t much learning in dungeons. Maybe 10 to 50 if stone cold new.
But using the bonus up I now have take 4 chars 50 to 60. most runs had at least 1 60 on them. Hooking up a friend, power running for quests? No clue but there they are. makes those runs real easy lol.
First times I saw this was about to flip out. VDH tank just leaps into the center of the opening yard of Necrotic.
What the you doing you wannabee leeroy jenk…oh…geared 60. Well cool…we steam rolling this dungeon. awesome.
Bad for noobs. Me several alts later…fast necrotic is good necrotic. Hate that place.
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I think the issue is that there should be content for new players, for people who aren’t laser focused on riding the hamster wheel to domination over lesser mortals. And there isn’t. That doesn’t change the fact that the learning curve for someone who joins wow as a new player who has never played a game remotely like this before may be a year or more.
This is exactly why I don’t do Mythics that often. The mere prospect of messing something up so hard that people will investigate me in advance is very intimidating.
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I don’t do it because of attitude problems.
Make me mad enough with bad attitude at a crucial moment I could go full bore barrage fest on say a hunter and misdirect to healer. May as well earn that kick. Do it right lol.
I’ve blown up a few fleet mates in eve for basically the same reason lol. I can take a fair amount of crap. Thick skin I have. But at some point…I checked that ego lol.
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We’ve had a couple recently, but it’s casual old farts guild so not prohibited so no reason to hide it.
But having a 17 key, 1600 io and not knowing the routes is a pretty dead give away.
This late in the expansion is really hard on new players. They are just so far behind on gear, grinds and experience that if there willing to spend their money trying to catch up I don’t have a much of a problem with it. I think they would be better off grinding their way up through keys, but even that is tough sell at this point with so many over gear players negating the mechanics in low keys.