I promise this is not a troll attempt. Its just something that kinda was on my mind today. So we all know what happens if you try to create a public group or event and than restrict it by race. It often ends with someone getting fined very very heavily, losing their job and being shamed heavily. Now similar reasons that it is not allowed irl could to a lesser degree by applied in game. I personally don't have an issue with them, but I could just as easily if something like this wasn't allowed from the get go.
Didn't realize race-specific guilds existed on non-RP servers.
They're weird on RP servers, so I'd say they're even weirder off them.
They're weird on RP servers, so I'd say they're even weirder off them.
I don't think it's that weird when you consider that there's a whole class in game that can only be a single race.
211/05/2018 02:21 AMPosted by AewendilI don't think it's that weird when you consider that there's a whole class in game that can only be a single race.
Are you talking about people races or in game race?
<Female Tauren Ele Shaman> Yes it has existed. No, it had like 1 or 2 people ever because nobody ran a Female Tauren AND shaman, much less ele, on that server group. At least not many. Was a Non-RP server. It is a meme guild.
Didn't know those even existed. Even so, I don't really care. As long as everyone has the freedom to do it and they feel that would make their experience more enjoyable and aren't harassing other people, more power to them.
Some guilds work better with limited races, such as guilds meant to represent a specific group.
A guild made up of human nobility would be weird if it wasn't majority human.
A guild representing a dwarven brewer's club would be unusual if it wasn't majority dwarf.
A guild representing a goblin cartel would be unusual if it wasn't full of goblins.
And so on, and so forth.
Outside of RP servers, they seem a little redundant.. but I feel single-race-only guilds work very well.
I'd also like to point out that race in WoW is more akin to 'species' when considering real life examples.
A guild made up of human nobility would be weird if it wasn't majority human.
A guild representing a dwarven brewer's club would be unusual if it wasn't majority dwarf.
A guild representing a goblin cartel would be unusual if it wasn't full of goblins.
And so on, and so forth.
Outside of RP servers, they seem a little redundant.. but I feel single-race-only guilds work very well.
I'd also like to point out that race in WoW is more akin to 'species' when considering real life examples.
11/05/2018 02:28 AMPosted by Svidinn
I'd also like to point out that race in WoW is more akin to 'species' when considering real life examples.
The definition of separate species is 2 animals that can't produce fertile offpsring if they interbreed. If 2 animals can breed and produce fertile offspring, then they are considered the same species.
Since WoW races can interbreed* (there are many examples in Lore) then they would biologically be considered different variants of a common species of primate. And there are examples of some of these hybrids being fertile too (e.g. Garona is Half-Orc, Half Draenei, and had a child with Medivh, a human). If this is possible, then Orcs, Draenei and Humans would all be considered the same species under Earthly taxonomic conventions.
The vastly different appearances of the races would not really prevent this definition from being true either. Look at dogs for example, a chihuahua and a husky are the same species, despite having vastly different appearance.
* All the humanoid races can at least (elf, draenei, orc, human, worgen, ogre, troll and presumably goblin) Unsure about Taurens and Pandaren, since i don't know of any examples of hybrid characters of these races, and they are obviously similar to already existing animals of a different species, so it's possible that they are actually more Cow than than Human for example). Similarly uncertain for Dwarves and Gnomes since these races were basically robots that were turned into flesh, it's unsure how they reproduce at all.
11/05/2018 02:28 AMPosted by Svidinn
I'd also like to point out that race in WoW is more akin to 'species' when considering real life examples.
The definition of separate species is 2 animals that can't produce fertile offpsring if they interbreed. If 2 animals can breed and produce fertile offspring, then they are considered the same species.
Since WoW races can interbreed (there are many examples in Lore) then they would biologically be considered different variants of a common species of primate. And there are examples of some of these hybrids being fertile too (e.g. Garona is Half-Orc, Half Draenei, and had a child with Medivh, a human). If this is possible, then Orcs, Draenei and Humans would all be considered the same species under Earthly taxonomic conventions.
The vastly different appearances of the races would not really prevent this definition from being true either. Look at dogs for example, a chihuahua and a husky are the same species, despite having vastly different appearance.
Separate species in the equidae family are capable of interbreeding, such as horses and donkeys, and horses and zebras.
As for half-breeds in lore, the vast majority are half-elf, half-human. There's only a handful of half-draenei. To suggest every race is the same species based purely on interbreeding, too, would be inaccurate as not every playable race displays interbreeding capability.
Not only are the races in WoW varied in appearance, they're also varied in origin. Some originated as stone created by powerful beings, while some merely evolved naturally or had magical influences. Several come from an entirely different planet.
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The definition of separate species is 2 animals that can't produce fertile offpsring if they interbreed. If 2 animals can breed and produce fertile offspring, then they are considered the same species.
Since WoW races can interbreed (there are many examples in Lore) then they would biologically be considered different variants of a common species of primate. And there are examples of some of these hybrids being fertile too (e.g. Garona is Half-Orc, Half Draenei, and had a child with Medivh, a human). If this is possible, then Orcs, Draenei and Humans would all be considered the same species under Earthly taxonomic conventions.
The vastly different appearances of the races would not really prevent this definition from being true either. Look at dogs for example, a chihuahua and a husky are the same species, despite having vastly different appearance.
Separate species in the equidae family are capable of interbreeding, such as horses and donkeys, and horses and zebras.
They are capable of interbreeding but they produce sterile young. A horse/donkey hybrid is called a mule which is also the generic word for a sterile hybrid offspring of any species. Literally the trope namer in this case.
Almost all these hyrbid offspring are sterile with very rare exceptions. Tigons, Ligers, Zorses, Mules etc are sterile the vast majority of the time.
11/05/2018 03:15 AMPosted by Svidinn
Not only are the races in WoW varied in appearance, they're also varied in origin. Some originated as stone created by powerful beings, while some merely evolved naturally or had magical influences. Several come from an entirely different planet.
Pan!@#$%ia theory could explain why some races from other planets are still capable of interbreeding. I don't think lore specifically rules this out.
To suggest every race is the same species based purely on interbreeding, too, would be inaccurate as not every playable race displays interbreeding capability.
Yes I did note in a later edit that the jury is out on Tauren, Pandaren, Gnomes and Dwarves since AFAIK there are no examples of hybrids of those races.
As for half-breeds in lore, the vast majority are half-elf, half-human. There's only a handful of half-draenei.
Half Orcs are not uncommon either. Garona, Lantresor Of The Blade. Rexxar is half orc, half ogre, just like all of the Mok'Nathal.
There aren't any examples of half-trolls that I know of, but since they are descended from night elves it stands to reason that they are capable of interbreeding with the same races that night elves are.
Goblins I lumped in with the rest since in most fantasy literature, Goblins are considered a variant of Orcs. That isn't true in WoW though, so I guess the jury is out on whether Goblins are a separate species.
Nothing wrong race specific guilds I was in one at one point years ago on my Goblin but that guild died pretty quickly lol.
In lightbringer we have a guild only for gnomes with pink hair, is called "Pink or GTFO", I think is cute
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/guild/lightbringer/Pink_or_GTFO/
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/guild/lightbringer/Pink_or_GTFO/
I remember playing vanilla WoW and there was a Druid of the Claw guild with nothing but night elf druids. I thought it was pretty cool. I always thought guilds themed after WoW lore are pretty awesome, but I wonder if any actually succeed?
An all troll guild would be cool and one I would like to join. Between Zandalari and Darkspear, they have every class they could possibly need.
An all troll guild would be cool and one I would like to join. Between Zandalari and Darkspear, they have every class they could possibly need.
They represent a strange divorce between character and player - like they're different things.
11/05/2018 05:53 AMPosted by GnerdieGnomeregan Forever is an all-Gnome RP guild on Wyrmrest Accord that has been active and strong for the last eight years. G4 does a bit of everything you can think of, including pushing Mythic+ & Heroic Raids.
"For Gnomeregan!"
Don't even get me started on those leper gnomes. I used to be apart of those guys before I transferred my gnome off WRA. The leader of that guild is very toxic to people who also have Horde characters; Especially goblins and when they found out I also had a goblin, I was treated as though I wasn't a true Gnome nerd anymore and they were very passive aggressive to me. I hate people like this who take faction pride to unhealthy extents. Their leader also has this extremely self absorbed sense of over importance and pride and think they are practically the Godsend for gnomes everywhere. Many of their upper management aren't any better.
I think their actually funny
Most of what I've seen are pretty much humor based
Most of what I've seen are pretty much humor based
You just reminded me...I need to kick these non Tauren out of this guild.