How do some players that played WoW since Vanilla but never reached the height of players that played the game for less time

For the people here that have played WoW since vanilla and is still currently playing, what makes them still unable to reach the level of skill of players like Pikaboo, Vanguards, Venruki, etc.

Time spent playing the game would mean skill would increase too, right? I have played for quite a while now, but I still suck lol.

1 Like

Some people are just gifted, simple as that. Or cheating haha

5 Likes

I don’t think those players are cheating lmao.

2 Likes

A lot of people don’t like to min max gear or spend time trying to perfect rotations or sim, or simply just don’t have time to put that much thought into it and just play WoW to chill after a long day at work. They just wanna be able to explore the world and do the content.

60 Likes

Because time doing something doesn’t infinitely make you better at it.

Does all the walking you’ve done in your life make you a champion powerwalker?

Can you type 150 words per minute because you’ve spent a bunch of your life typing?

Also, there’s doing something, and there’s actively trying to get better at it. They are far different things.

And there’s also a reason we talk about skill ceilings.

14 Likes

you only get better if you try to get better. lots of people believe they’re already doing everything perfectly, so they just keep making the same mistakes over and over.

2 Likes

That make sense. A lot of players I have met on WoW are just casual players that like to take it easy. The players I have mentioned above are the ones that actively specialize in one class and then take the time to improve upon them.

the skillcap.

1 Like

Some people play baseball, golf, football, or basketball for their entire lives yet never end up signing with the New England Patriots or whatever.

Why is that?

5 Likes

Because im no longer 16 years old, i have a job, a mortgage and responsibilities that dont let me play a game for 8+ hours a day. I got other hobbies over those 15 years i enjoy doing.

The vanilla and BC players grew up dude. most are in their 30s now, or hell even older now.

23 Likes

Played since Vanilla.

I was young then. Now I’m old, my reflexes are slower, and I have arthritis in my hands.

And someday, you will too.

18 Likes

Focused time, interest, and talent are what make exceptionally skilled players. Sure, those of us who have played for years and years may have more sheer hours in the game, but someone who practices everyday, intentionally finds others they can learn from/with, and is motivated to dig into all of the details that affect their performance will surpass us long-haulers in a matter of months or less.

  1. lazy
  2. was in a progression raiding guild in Classic and will never spend that much time and energy on the game again
    I transferred servers just as we were getting ready to start Naxx (I was attuned)
  3. still lazy.
6 Likes

I started playing when I was almost 40 because Tribes was too fast for me. I thought, Oh, I can enjoy this easy MMORPG with it’s fantasy land questing. Then I joined a guild and started raiding and learning dungeons. it was all pretty easy, then I ventured into pvping, where I learned the basics of actually having to move and interrupt/focus healers. The only time I was “good” was after putting in weeks with a guild and using AskMrRobot back when it was free to optimize my dps. After that I stopped guild raiding, because I could just look up strats on Icy Veins and pug them. Then I started working on alts. And after you’ve been through 3 expansions where you lose all your abilities and have to re-learn them in different ways you just get jaded. i also refused to pay for all the new addons that you need to “gitgud” and just got too bewildered by how to use them (i.e. WeakAuras) or how you had to update them constantly. So I probably play worse now 15 years later than I ever did, aside from at the very start. It is crucial to use all those addons to optimize your dps if you are serious about it, and once they added M+ with affixes and timers, I was just too lazy to do it especially as I have no core group of friends to run those with, and don’t want to.

9 Likes

Um, no. The reality of life is that some people are more talented in certain endeavors than other people are. You could devote your entire life to basketball, but never achieve anything close to what Michael Jordan has. You could devote your entire life to the study of economics but never be the next Thomas Sowell. I could go on but you get the picture. Natural ability is a huge ingredient for success, and it’s not distributed equally among the human population.

4 Likes

I work an intensive job. I honestly don’t play wow to be challenged. I have a solid group of friends I’ve met over the last 15 years that makes it a good place to have fun and do stupid stuff. I don’t really want the rank 1, I don’t want to super analyze logs, I’m not trying to impress a < 25 year old on my “gaming skills”. It’s okay to just enjoy the game for fun.

Maybe you don’t have the skills (doubt that though, most people do). Take a game for what it is. A game, to play, to enjoy, and to have fun.

11 Likes

I am twice your height, but I don’t play challenging content.

What’s wrong with you OP?

Oh trust me…we are WAY older than 30’s LoL.

9 Likes

swoon
Just thought about being 30 again.
Then again… shiver thought of being 30 again.

5 Likes

Those players live to be the best skilled player they can be. You can watch all the flashy videos you want of them, but hundreds and hundreds of boring hours were spent by those players perfecting rotations, min/maxing, and reading lots of sites.

I personally don’t care about any of that. I play WoW to explore. I maybe do a the same dungeon 10 times max in an expansion before I am on to something else.

Like another poster said I have a stressful job. I am not stressing myself out in this game. I barely know my rotation, and I don’t care. MMORPGS are suppose to be another world to explore in to me, not some min/max esports. But to each their own.

9 Likes