You get an extra item for timing a key. For a +15 in time you’d get 3 pieces of loot shared among the party. For a +15 depleted you’d get 2 pieces of loot among the party. So depleting does lose an item compared to timing.
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You also have a further chance of extra items for keys timed above +15. For example I’ve had 5 items drop in my recent timed +19. Of course this doesn’t matter much since the loss of titanforging killed M+ gear acquisition for most people months ago.
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There is no +1 keystone difficulty. +2 is the minimum and there is no maximum (in theory).
It is confusing as we refer to regular mythic as mythic 0.
I appreciated this summary of it all, though all the subsequent helpful other posts in this thread was greatly appreciated in it’s positive input to the OP’s question. As someone that used to infamously run pugs as a community tank in the old school Heroics pre Mythic Dungeons days, I understood them as the game was back then. But that has obviously changed since.
I’ve only just returned to the game in a somewhat regular way, yet I have been playing since 2005 all the way up to end of WoTLK. I completely skipped Cata all the way up to a few months ago. I had no idea what Mythic’s were or how to do about them, yet just like the OP I kept seeing it in the Adventure Guide link in game and no idea how they work and all that. I looked up a bit on Youtube, but few really take time to clearly explain the in’s and out of how they actually work like explained here. At least I now have a good enough understanding of how it works and reading in between the lines of others input. As an old school player and one who’s guild is not active much no one around to try to run these Mythic’s with. In my heart i’m still old school, just less hardcore about it. I hadn’t been to Mythic’s because nothing in game really explain how they work and didn’t know.
Some good many people honestly didn’t know how Mythic Dungeons work like the OP did and myself. As well many others who played the game way back in the day having took long break from the game only to return and dust off their old armor and ask what’s this Mythic thing. The WoW Community can sometime be quite harsh to things people ask somehow expecting them to know the answers. People come and go in this game over the years due to all kind of reasons, but life it is. The game changes and often people returning as veterans of the old game just need a helping effort to understand how things work now and have changed. So I for one would like to thank all those in this thread what the OP created for chiming in with their time and properly explaining how this Mythic think work. At least I understand enough!
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I could’ve wrote this post myself. I recently returned to the game after not playing since 2/3 through WOD. Before that I played since the start of TBC. I too was lost on this whole Mythic thing it was just gonna give up and start looking ahead to SL. Thanks to the people in this thread, I’m looking forward to doing my first mythic +1 and then building from there. While the community can be toxic at times and I see that hasn’t changed since I’ve been gone, it’s the people like the ones in this thread who definitely make it better. Thank you all so much!
Now my only fear is getting kicked from a mythic plus +1 or +2 because I’m trying to learn the mechanics. Lol.
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Make your own M0 group (also known as base “mythic”, just switch difficulty and walk in and start) group and kill the final boss for your own random +2 key. You can never deplete that +2 key below +2 no matter how many times people leave or how long you take to learn mechanics.
As for joining new mythic groups this late in the expansion yes the honest truth is that the vast majority of the playerbase doing low mythics at this point are probably gearing up and (hopefully) know these mechanics as muscle memory by now, hence limited patience for your learning.
So true! People can be snobby for no real reason. I get that you’d lose a level on your key or not get loot or have a repair bill…but these are real people on the other side of these toons! Thanks to everyone who is patient with new/returning players instead of too-cool-for-school snobby!
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We messed up someone’s M7 Junkyard key…well I died as the tank to Goop.
We failed, finished after the timer so I assume his key goes down to M6.
question:
What would happen if say he got carried on a M20 (unlikely I know) and they finished before the timer. Does his key get replaced by M20 key or only his Mythic weekly log result and therefore his chest for coming week?
Timing other people’s keys has no effect on your key.
Your weekly chest will have a key 1 level lower than the highest key you COMPLETED the week before. So his 6 key wouldn’t change but his weekly chest would contain a 19 key.
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Yes and no. The system seems to have changed some time in BFA. I deleted a couple of characters that had timed 18/19 keys before deletion. Monday of last week I restored one of them. I opened my chest and there was a 17 key (he had timed an 18 before deletion). I pugged a quick +15 before reset and opened my chest this past tuesday. Inside was a +16 key, not a +14 key as predicted (1 lower than the +15 of that reset). I don’t know if this would continue, such as if he timed a highest +14 this week then would we have a 13 in his chest next reset (1 lower than a 13) or a 15 (1 lower than the 16 he got from his previous chest).
Ah yes I forgot about that quirk. I have also noticed your chest key only seems to drop 1 a week if you don’t earn a higher key through the week.