How difficult is S4 KSM

If there are only 8 dungeons does this mean we have to do +20 minimum for the mount? Is that going to be too difficult in the time we have left?

well it should be 2k IO since we only have 8 dungeons like how it is season 1 and 2. So no not really hard to get KSM. By next week alot of people will have acquired it. I’m just under 500 point to get mine and it’s only week 1

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You only need 2000 rating for KSM this season, which is perfectly doable and is roughly the equivalent of timing everything at 15 or better on both fortified and tyrannical.

im probably considered super casual when it comes to keys and im already over 1300io

ah ok thanks so they scale the rating to ~15s all around that should be ok

i was worried i had to do a +20 lower kara or grimrail

I’m 1610 with just this week. many of the best m+ players are already over 2k.

it’s going to be fairly easy for anyone who puts in the effort to get ksm this season.

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I’m timing 14’s at 281, so I imagine many ppl will have KSM in just a few weeks.

Hardest things to get will be your Karazhans, mainly lower right now.

Fortunately for you Junkyard exists and even if lower Karazhan is a +10 then you can certainly do a +20 Junkyard. Its not an exact 1 to 1 ration regarding the score but you should be just fine if you are doing 15+s besides a high lower kara.

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Hard if they don’t balance the dungeons.

Wouldn’t know. Couldn’t ever get the others so i know this one is unattainable. It is what it is.

No, you just need 2k score which is 15’s in time for both weeks, or 20’s in time on either week for it.

Yeah I have already timed a 22 streets, yet haven’t been able to time a lower karazhan as a 15, the scaling is really horrendous for that dungeon.

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15s avg still this season, mecha/taz/docks will all be extremely easy to do higher then a 15 of. Grimrail/upper aren’t too bad done right at +15. With a few highballs on the others you could get away with a sub 15 lower.

And I bet lower will be nerfed further, it has already been lightly nerfed. So it shouldn’t be bad to do ksm this season. Moreso when people actually get geared.

Damn, I really suck lol. I’m still sub 1k rating. Maybe week after next, for me.

Lots of people already have KSM and it’s week 1 :joy: so it’s pretty easy

I’m at 1400 IO so not hard at all. Sooner you get into +15s the better.

I heard Kara is really rough, but that’ll probably get adjusted and it’ll be like any other season.

Upper karazhan is actually very easy if EVERYONE knows mechanics -specially Medivh. Very easily timed. Lower karazhan, not so much. Routes are still being worked on and changed and you have to be careful what you pull or you die unless everyone has CDs up. And then actively avoiding mechanics in opera boss fight is a big hassle too. I got instantly killed right away by 2 adds doing the vanish/backstab thing on me, its crazy. And the DPS req for maiden is pretty high, you will always encounter 1 maiden shield no matter what, and if you aren’t prepared with cds, you will wipe. Supposedly they nerfed her shield? But from my +14 run its till too much. We barely just made it 2nd pull.

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then you’re not super casual.

I worry mine becoz I am 100% with PuGs.

Upper and Lower Kara seems very unforgiving. I can perform great as individual as I could carry my own weight. But carrying PuGs on it, would be a challenge.

There are best practices on strategy to make Kara fights a bit easier. With PuGs where communication is poor, it would be chaotic. We will see.