How did the Night Elves retake Darkshore?

I thought Anduin proclaimed “peace for our time” when Sylvanas ran away. Did the night elves break the peace treaty so soon, or did they retake it before the peace happened?

We won by the end of 8.1 right by the time when Nathanos himself admited the Horde was losing on all fronts.
The combined might of the Night Elves this time empowered by Elune found that the Horde were no match for them.

Edited to fix an embarrassment caused by sleep deprivation. :see_no_evil:

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I think you might want to reword this one.

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I don’t think so. Seems about right in my opinion. We finally after decades since WC3 were allowed to use pretty much our full arsenal. Priestesses of the Moon, Sentinels with archers, huntresses, hippogryph riders, Druids, Wardens, Highborne, Keepers, Dryads, Fairy dragons, Ancients, Tyrande, Malfurion and Elune all while fighting on a perpetual night which that alone gives them a huge power boost and to top that they were all getting the night warrior buff.
Yeah, I do believe they had the upper hand and crushed the Horde there.
Had the fight been set in another zone things would be different but to fight Night Elves on their turf is not usually a good idea.

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Dude… your post say the Night Elves are no match for the Horde there. I’m pretty sure you want to reword your post.

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Key word being “There”. So I still stand on my post. Love ir or hate it lore backs me up with Elegy/A Good War. Night Elves were outnumbered 8:1 and at the end there were more Horde casualties all while have to face only the city guard and civilians and yes Malfurion too.
How did it happen? not by sheer strength and brute force but because Night Elves after 10k years of being in tuned with nature and their forest have learned to use their very enviroment as a leathal weapon.

So I repeat it again. In any other zone probably they would have lost horribly but as long as they are in their forest they have the advantage.

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Ammea is literally saying your phrasing is incorrect, not that the Night Elves can’t beat the Horde. Nobody is trying to argue against a Night Elf victory.

What you should say is “the Horde is no match for the Night Elves.” As in the Horde’s strength cannot match the Night Elves’ strength, leading to a loss. What you’ve said is “the Night Elves are no match for the Horde,” which implies that the Horde is the power that the Night Elves have to match, and they fail to do so. Which, as both your spiels and the canonical victory show, is incorrect.

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I have seen some stupid discussions on the forum before.

Somehow this is the stupidest it’s ever been.

I don’t even know what to say.

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bunch of nerds in here

I think what gets me about it, is like the conversation comes off as condensed Story Forum. I can’t know for sure what happened in that mind palace as it was going on, but I can guess based on past experiences. It’s not even a swing and a miss, it isn’t even like the pitcher threw the ball and the person didn’t realize they needed to swing.

There is no pitcher, there is no catcher, no crowd, no stadium. There’s just a man holding a baseball bat in the middle of an open field, eyes narrowed at the nothing in front of him to swing at a pitch was never made. The pitcher has been dead for the better part of two years, crashed into the side of a building one fateful midsummer day, and now he can only replay the game that never happened on loop. It’s okay, you can go home.

Can we pin this?

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It’s just a personal headcanon, but I imagine that the Darkshore front was resolved so late in-universe due to Sylvanas loyalist stragglers. Baine and friends are likely bogged down with the systematic changes they’re making to the Horde’s government, so the remaining soldiers in Darkshore who are still gung-ho for their Banshee Queen have essentially been left for the Army of the Black Moon to deal with. Because if those eejits are that insistent on fighting in a land where the moon is darkened, the sky is shrouded in constant night, and the trees speak Darnassian, it’s their funeral.

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I am more worried about people hearting them comments.

Sends shivers through my spine.

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By the magic of the status quo and plot!

In all seriousness sylvanas’ plan was stupid, really really stupid, she didn’t have an actual plan to properly hold the forest, just cause as much damage as possible in as short an amount of time. The fact the horde collapsed and restructured it’s entire government shortly there after also likely means the troops were withdrawn because they had more important things to do then fight a war for a forest that is not gonna surrender anytime soon. Combined with the fact it appears the horde doesn’t have a united military anymore, and we get an unsustainable war for the horde.

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Ammea is just saying, the way you worded your previous post, you actually said the Horde kicked the night elves butt while they were empowered. Just need to switch it around

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Probably because the horde aren’t sending resources to Darkshore anymore. They could still if the Shatterspear tribe needs it.

That’s what happens when you try to post while awake over 24 hours. Brain just doesn’t respond the way I want it to. :sweat_smile:

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The Shatterspear was wiped out in Cata. Makes zero sense for them to have had a presence in BfA at all.

If only Saurfang was as obsessed with grammar syntax as he was with “honor.”

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Wow. Will you look at that. Forum zealots over reacting to a bit of grammatical criticism. :grimacing:

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They’re back later, being one of the only tribes friendly to the horde on zandalar and being one of the trolls 3 new customization options (Alongside Dark trolls and Sand Trolls) might have had to relocate, but they’re still active.