If you played Shadowlands, it is verifiably not the worst you’ve seen.
what can we say we need to make bears better? list it out:
bring back adaptive fur? that could help with magic
buff ironfur? would more armor help, or should bears get more armor overall, outside of ironfur?
raze feels… unspectacular. it needs to hit a lot harder. (but thats my casual two-cents)
lazer beam from space… more healing? give bears more dodge? how could this improve?
ysera’s gift brought back? extra healing WAS nice
what else could be added? remember how bears in Wrath were dodge-machines? bring back that?
I don’t do content that “matters”, so list it out and cross your fingers blizz will pay attention
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yeah im pretty sure warriors were shunned all of the first patch in shadowlands. so im not sure what you’re referring to.
Just look at how many there are in the top 1000. And how theres 1 in top 200.
Kinda says somethin when theres that little of a tank being seen in the higher content.
Well at the bear minimum, it looks like bear tanks have got the short end of the straw…and honestly it’s a little bit embearassing that the development team that’s in charge of balancing druids are honestly out of touch…
But I also think that it’s pawsible that the development team might see the error of their ways…
And on this, I’ll see my way out. Because this was even unbearable to me…
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For me, the most egregious problem with frenzied, is that it’s not off the GCD. It’s effectively a core reactive ability of our toolkit, but you can die waiting on the GCD so you can pop frenzied.
The change I have always vouched for is during Berserk the GCD goes bye-bye for most of your abilities. It’s not as “bad” now since since you aren’t super GCD locked with the Thrash nerf, but you still usually end up overdumping Rage on Ironfur because it isn’t efficient to spend the global on another spender.
I don’t think it is ever coming off the global permanently because every other tank also has their sustain on the global.
You just had too didnt you…
Because higher keys are known to have a diverse selection of Tanks, DPS, and Healers and min-maxing doesn’t exist.
The purpose of talent tree changes seems to be making people sorry they complained.
6.4% of tanks in 20s are bears. 20s are still in the progression curve making it unacceptable to be THAT skewed.
Even when BDK was a “S+++ Tier” tank or whatever in SL S3/4 the tanks were all significantly more spread out at the +15 range.
Honestly shocked the last tank is Blizzards golden child and not BrM
This is a hot take, but I am FINE with the concept of nerfing Incarn to have bears not be gods every 2.5 minutes or whatever and allocating power elsewhere. The issue is they still suck elsewhere.
If Raze actually worked and spread a WORKING Tooth and Claw to the whole pack it would feel at least “better”.
The whole “gimmick” Bear has of “big health bar” doesn’t work in modern tank design because tanks like DH and Paladin get just as much health if not more during Meta/Sentinel. Sure, it’s only 40% or so uptime, but they also have functioning DR during and outside of those windows.
Why would they do that? People would unsub. Saying nothing rather than the truth, when the truth sounds bad, will result in more months of subscriptions.
For sure they have a grudge against druids, maybe because the class is harder to work on. Or too many druids are attached to their mains and won’t reroll obediently to some other class in order to bloat playtime.
It will definitely happen. They routinely churn the meta now so players will keep having to reroll.
I think this talent tree debacle is a reflection of the fact that the expansion was in no way ready to release.
Have never been a fan of incarn being a big 3 minute cooldown. It leads to us either being overpowered every 3 minutes, for 30 seconds, or mega garbage for 2.5 minutes out of every 3 minutes. So I’d agree with that sentiment.
I don’t agree that bear gimmick can’t be made to work. They just need to unshackle mastery again, along with reverting the nerfs to dire Bear(if that is even a thing. Seems like they deleted dire Bear at some point, normalizing the form for all druid specs).
Make bear have more health than other tanks, by a substantial margin, and it won’t matter as much that they’re healing sponges.
Let’s be honest, the last 3 expacs have been nowhere near ready for launch. They rush them so much now. The result is crap like this that makes people want to quit.
Sl season 2…
Also not exactly a good thing fyi, also bear got worse in the last update and they were already considered ro be the worst tank.
Neither does Blizzard. I’m convinced the idiots in the class tuning department have a giant wheel with ideas their 4 year old came up with and they just have a blindfolded nutless monkey throwing poop at the wheel and they just go with whatever it sticks to.
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This!! I was wondering wtf was going with my thrash…
It always baffles me that instead of changing scaling they butcher what little playstyle we had, spamming thrash was one of the only fun things about bears.
Just like rogue instead of straight dmg nerf they messed with their combo point generation 7 weeks into the expansion, now they play a little more janky and made if unfun.