How can we redeem/rebuild the Horde?

[Baalsamael-turalyon (Baalsamael)]

@Velskàr-stormrage

So on this note, pardon my ignorance, but I have always wondered what Blood Elf culture is meant to be based on—the most I’ve been able to find is that their architecture is (supposedly) based on French Art Nouveau.

There’s a twitter user who talked about it recently but their name contains a Bad Word lmao so I’m linking my own retweet

https://twitter.com/MozarabMohan/status/1353488430987161600

• Blood Elf inns have Hookahs strews across the floor
• Blood Elf spires and dome styles resemble West Asian, South Asian, and North African minarets and mosques
• Art Nouveau was actually created being derived from Ottoman style architecture and art (the creators of the style all stated this so anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t know art history)
• Illidan had a “den of mortal delights” filled with blood elf women; ie a harem
• “SELAM’ashalanore”, Selam is a regional variation of Salam
• Blood elf boats look like baghlah

@Zahirwrite-farstriders

on azeroth she ´s associated with the moon, but that doesn´t mean, that it is like that everywhere.

God you’re delusional.

@Velskàr-stormrage

Elune is a moon goddess, first and foremost. “Moon” does not necessarily = “Balance.”

The entire point of the moon in almost every mythology is that the moon is internally balanced whereas the sun is internally imbalanced but that the moon is balanced with the sun

He just insists there doesn’t need to be a solar deity developed in WoW that would validate tauren and give depth to trolls and belves

Reiterating my earlier points:

@Baalsamael-turalyon

• Blood Elf Belore: has never been explained, is tied to the Sunwell, is gestured at in various voice over lines, the Blood Elf Priests in the Class Order Hall are “Sun Priests” etc. Just need Liadrin and Rommath getting “visions” from the Sunwell, reveal A’lar is a blessing from Belore
• Tauren An’she: has literally divinely intervened in both the Highmountain Mythos in the fields of An’she, is tied to Tauren Shamanism (the one who taught them to Spirit Walk), is considered the brother of Elune/Musha, is the source of Tauren Paladin Sun-based Light.
• Trolls: Sun motifs all over Dazaralor and Ataldazar, Rezan’s Loa of a Tale tablet states he has “the power of the sun”, the “hand of valor” that nobody knows what it is that pulled Vol’jin out of the Maw and empowered him hasn’t been explained yet.
• Orcs: While the Shadowmoon Clan is also probably going to be revealed to be Elune, they could tie Orcish Shamanism with regards to the elements to such a being.

@Baalsamael-turalyon

Have An’she be based on Solar Deities found in myths of African and Amerindigenous peoples, with only SLIGHT borrowing from Euro-Pagan stuff.

Make him related to Wild Gods, but only the extreme ends (e.g. Rukhmar and Anzu from Draenor) due to the Sun’s Light being everywhere but also casting Shadows all day.

Have An’she be derived from:

• Ogun and Shango, have him be a warrior deity who was the one that blessed Orcs with bloodlust in moments of need
• Obatala, have him be a creator deity who was the one responsible for the existence of the elements themselves in reality
• Illapa (who was syncretized in the Andes with Shango side note), have him be a deity that takes away powers should the person dishonor themselves (explaining why Paladins need faith and self-belief, why Thrall lost his shaman powers)
• Inti, have him be a deity that blesses his people with long life and purifies corruptions (ergo why Rezan could bless Rastakhan with long life, ergo why Blood Elves have lost their fel corruption shown in their eyes)
• etc