How can we redeem/rebuild the Horde?

[Baalsamael-turalyon (Baalsamael)]

@Droité-black-dragonflight

Calia can get some growth on this too, but I am strongly of the mind that if she is be A leader of the Forsaken she needs to: Have a reason for a healthy distance from the Alliance; and have a counterbalance like Voss appropriately built up as her Equal. To provide two leaders that service the entire spectrum of the Forsaken/Citizen of Lordaeron identity and care for their futures. Allowing long overdue Horde integration.

re: Calia, my take from long ago:

@Baalsamael-turalyon

Which I think could be done via the hypothetical questline I’m imagining if Blizzard isn’t a complete idiot and there’s someone on their lore team in charge of this that has the range:

@Baalsamael-turalyon

I mean yeah there’s a lot more than can be done, but it could be done via progressive quests.

• Quest 1: Calia asks you to find Lilian and Velonara and Aelthalyste and a conversation occurs where she admits she’s overwhelmed because she feels disconnected. She knew about “being Lordaeronian” in life, but Undeath adds a quality that she is only beginning to grasp.
• Quest 2: Calia asks you to accompany her in talking with old-school Forsaken NPCs
• Quest 3: Calia asks you to accompany her, Velonara, and Aelthalyste to visit Windrunner Spire, to witness what Sylvanas lost
• Quest 4: Calia asks you to accompany her to Acherus, to speak with the Four Horseman, in particular Darion Mograine and Sally Whitemane, there’s an interaction between Sally and Lilian
• Quest 5: Calia asks you to accompany her with Delaryn to Darkshore, you encounter Tyrande
• Quest 6: Something involving Maldraxxus
• Quest 7: Maldraxxus + Calia clean Undercity using neutralizing agent from the House of Plagues, but uses specifically Shadow magic to finish the cleaning of Undercity

All of this happening over the expansion, so by the end of it, Ardenweald restores Teldrassil and Maldraxxus restores Undercity.

I violently agree in that Undeath shouldn’t be cured, let alone via “The Light”, but the thing is Azeroth’s undead is achieved strictly via shadow, fel, light, and sometimes even arcane.

But that’s why Calia was a “Discipline Priest Champion” in Legion. That’s why she was raised with Shadow and Light and a Naaru that was a Void God just a year ago and is still strangely purple.

I think Calia can learn Necromancy from the Primus, real Necromancy, not the off-brand dollar-store version of the Lich King and the Nathrezim, and “perfect” the Undead by preventing their bodies from rotting anymore and learn magic that will allow the Forsaken to grow (still raising the dead) without the need of Valkyr.

Or develop in Shadowlands how if any Azerothian ends up in Maldraxxus, they have a chance to be Undead. More “ethical”.