Nobody said that you didn’t got crushed. Since we are able to admit that the alliance was crushed, can you also do the same about the horde? So why should the horde get even more crushed.
If the only thing that would make you happy is the other faction being crushed even more, than i recommend you to quit the game. That way of thinking is just toxic with no ending as you can’t find no way of making both side happy.
New expansions starts with Alliance decimating the Horde in a satisfactory way to make even the blood thirstiest of Alliance players happy. Thats 1 pre-patch worth of events.
Now we have an entire expansion of the Horde trying to grow out of that in a more positive way by reconstructing what was broken and Alliance has self conflict between the warmongerers and the peacemakers. Hopefully leading to the removal of the highking position.
Alliance get their council back and the Horde get their warchief… no i mean Buildchief back.
Does this work for you?
Can the Horde for once be the turn the other cheek faction? We will allow Golden to use her special Instant Peace technique to avoid a faction conflict expansion.
Why does being satisfying is so important to be a win for the alliance but when it come to horde player, being satisfying was never important and a win is a win…
If the alliance can have a satisfying win does it mean that the horde can also have it??? Since you claim to want the same thing…
Or on the other hand you can have, like the horde, a totally unsatisfying win with no moral high ground that would make you feel weaker than the other faction, like the horde had.
Because for the Horde to be satisfied they need to be built back up again with new characters.
For Alliance you already know. The whole purpose of this thread is to redeem the factions and move them towards a more satisfactory way.
This is what it takes for the Alliance to move on.
If its too much for you then enjoy the status quo.
The only development allowed to the Horde is being horrible monsters with zero relevance in everything else. And Alliance will have its own ride.
No, the point of this thread is laying out ideas to rebuild the Horde to a place where it doesn’t end up like it did post-WotLK.
Lmao. Alliance got plenty of victories in Bfa. Some Alliance players not accepting them as what they are doesn’t make these victories any less valid. What you WANT is entitlement and having our leaders turning even harder into alliance yes men then they currently are. You don’t get to develop your faction on the corpse of our faction. Stop being selfish.
I’m AWESOME with that.
Again, the ONLY price you have to pay for that sort of ruthless power fantasy is the reps that need developing get their development. Hell, you want to really sell that sort of quick win, throw in the Lightbound to dramatically shift the balance of power on Azeroth in favor of the Alliance. And to give them the “saving us from ourselves” message. The Blues get to just wreck the Reds while offsetting any costs in doing so. And we all get back from the SLs just as the Horde is on the breaking point; and things are getting real shifty with the Alliance’s new “ally”.
BAM! Alliance gets their massive victories. Horde gets chances to develop their reps. And it transitions nicely into the Light Cosmology Expac that’s likely coming.
Can the Horde grow in a more positive way as you want like Orcs reconnect with their shaminism if lets say Turalyon and Shandris launch a devasting attack that blows up a few locations with new blue flags.
Will it for you better the Horde moves on elsewhere to establish a foothold there or engage a new war but this time as a victim?
Because if yes then maybe both factions can have what they want.
minus thirteen.
Well, its not like the Horde ever gets to keep the locations they blow up, but sure. I doubt it will be Shandris though. She’s a bit of a peacenik. How about Maiev on Kali and Turalyon on EK?
Horde rebuilding is not dependant on Alliance involvement.
I mean for it to be fair, this would mean that except for the one win of the alliance, the following expansion would only have satisfying content for the horde as they would ‘‘rebuild’’ themself with powerfull character while the alliance would keep destroying them self.
It is really what you want? One satisfying moment for years of unsatisfying content while the horde have good content outside of that ‘‘one’’ lost?
Because that is only way that it would be fair as both side would ‘‘sacrifice’’ something to get what they asked for.
Unless you are asking for THAT option which of course would be unfair to the horde player. I am of course that about the option of the alliance having not only their satisfying win but would also be shown as morally right. Which of course would mean that the horde would be the only one to take a ‘‘lost’’ in this alliance utopia option.
Horde will never be rebuild in any way that is satisfying. You will rather see Baine sending some Tauren to the Alliance as sacrifice beef for peace dinner before any of the Horde leaders eevr steps out of their shell and do ANYTHING that would benefit the Horde without alliance being involved. It is impossible to do anything on Azeroth without the Alliance having the final say in it. If we want that status qup to change the cuck council needs to be disbanded and replaced with a better leadership.
Thrall is putting on the black armor again. We are half way there already.
Hard disagree.
Regardless of what dishonest bad faith Horde posters will claim. This is literally all we want. To be able to watch the Night Elves successfully defend their front yard. I couldn’t care less about losing anywhere else if it means when the Horde tries to encroach on any part of Ashenvale, Darkshore, etc it means they get booted out. As they should have been from the start.
This same courtesy has never once been shown to Alliance players. And probably isn’t even shown to us in the thread you linked. So why should I?
Droite likes to play down how massive a W the War of Thorns was for the Horde because the game dared to suggest they were not morally white for participating in it. If the writers didn’t use it to villain bat the Horde then they’d hale it as the greatest pre-patch event to ever go live.
Deconstructing the Stormwind monopoly of everything important is absolutely what we need right now. The political infighting will allow the individual kingdoms have their own differentiation which is what Alliance players have been wanting since MoP.
And striking at the Horde for a lot of pent up range is a nice thing to wash everything else down.
Personally I would start with Outland bases. The Alliance doesn’t care about claiming a ruined world but for Orcs it is the native placed they come from. We are already half there with Thrallmar and Garadar being active hubs. But I think we can do better then that. My first step for it would be taking Hellfire citadel. We can build up from that point. If the Horde expedition is still holding out there I think there is alot of potential.
Yes, yes, yes. A token force of city guards and civilians should be able to hold back the entirety of the Horde war machine because of trees.
Yeah, ok.
magic trees you heathen.