Right now there’s a serious imbalance at the highest levels of PvE between the factions. Go look on wowprogress through the top 1000 guilds, the LARGE majority of them are Horde, including many who went Alliance–>Horde.
Now you might think “this doesn’t have an impact on the normal, casual Alliance player”, but there’s a serious snowball effect happening where it affects mythic guilds, then heroic guilds, then normal guilds as well.
You’ll never have a pure 50/50 split in the top guilds, but right now it’s like 80/20 which is absolutely unacceptable.
My first two moves, if I were Blizzard, would be:
1.) Disable racials in mythic raiding: Honestly this should’ve been done years ago. I know racials don’t matter for 99% of the playerbase, but they do for the top 1% to get that .001% extra performance.
2.) Give guilds that went Ally->Horde a one time transfer back. This would help a lot I think.
Honestly besides those two, I don’t know. Shame on Blizzard for letting it get as bad as it is right now.
edit: removed PvP, the arena leaderboards are surprisingly balanced right now.
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Allowing cross faction guilds could help, but that would create a new kind of problem for many people.
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The only way they can save the Alliance from themselves is to stop coddling their nonsense. Release actual numbers to counter the doom and gloom nonsense excuses Alliance make for their own lack of effort.
The fact that they actually REWARDED you for your retreat from warmode still baffles me to this day. It only made the problem worse.
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This… is actually a pretty solid idea. It’d take some getting used to, I imagine, but it could work.
I don’t think this is the right idea, to be honest. A lot of those rosters will have changed over the course of a full decade. IMO, the best thing to do would be to make it exceedingly cheap to transfer/faction change characters for a while. Like ten bucks per toon for both services, five bucks individually.
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The only way to fix the factions is by having more people play the game.
Racials are no longer that much imbalanced and if anything are currently favoring slightly alliance with NEs for M+ and humans for pvp (still better than orc but comparable).
They are not giving free transfers, and to be fair making factions more balanced with a smaller pop would be making basicly the Horde worse.
So, the choice then become to make it cross-faction, but we can’t even raid mythic cross-servers. So I wouldn’t get my hope high for that.
So a good halfway solution would be to merge more servers, but well we have been waiting a long time for this.
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No. If you’re going to remove racials from one aspect of the game, just remove them entirely. Humans should not have an advantage reaching exalted then step into raiding where racials do not matter anymore.
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What in the world are you rambling on about?
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Many races ONLY good racials are for actual pve content. If you take away a trolls beserking, they have nothing else. Humans reputation bonus is actually useful outside of raid, so if you’re taking away Troll beserking where it matters, just get rid of racials altogether.
They don’t REALLY make a difference to the vast majority of people, but at least it would take away the excuse Alliance have for losing.
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I’m trying to figure this out myself
Must be it. Haha. I’ve read their post 4x and can’t understand what they are yeeting about.
I do question if appealing to the FotM flippers on racials is gonna be the right thing. The problem is you need to basically patch up a dam after most of the water’s already leaked out without the balance going back in the other way. You need to give some incentive for people to be on both factions, otherwise people will just go where there’s more people.
I know what doesn’t help, though
lol imagine thinking berserking has no use in the open world and also being so disconnected from the game you haven’t noticed the switch as people move to a single faction.
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It is neither my fault, nor my problem that you are illiterate.
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woooosh there goes the credibility
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Or in every other piece of progression-relevant content in the game. :\
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- If you need beserking, or even notice it in world content, you are not allowed to even discuss mythic raiding. You’re playing an entirely different game.
- I’ve noticed the switch, but i don’t care. Stupid people making stupid decisions because of an imagined imbalance is not something to change the game over. Heck ONE major guild switched to Alliance for the free WPVP gear. Should Alliance all have a passive 10 ilvl reduction “curse” from now on because of that?
In reality Alliance racials actually have a slight advantage these days in PVE, outside of niche situations like the Troll racial on Jaina, “which was nerfed btw,” but if Alliance want to remove racials from part of the game, then they need to go away altogether.
They should not disable them, they should simply balance them a bit better or hell give alliance an actual buff for now so people might want to switch back. IDK what that might be but they should do something. A lot of the original racial bonuses have changed over time due to their original stat being removed. Blizzard did convert them to their current equiv as best they could but that was not good enough. They should have reworked them completely once they started removing things like weapon skill, spirit, etc.
So, human reputation bonus vs Trolls 20% haste buff…
The op is talking about pve, not pvp. You don’t recall when trolls had 20% haste as a racial? I do. Pretty unfair right? And so top guilds from alliance started going to horde for that significant buff, many others followed.
The alliance have never had anything close to that ridiculous racial pve dps, and the alliance never recovered.
Ion killed pvp in this game, so pvp is moot.
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My fault. I struggle reading incoherent rants consisting of gibberish on forums.
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It’s too late IMO.
You have community perception to contend with…
Other content that simply people feel more convenient being as Horde to complete said content.
There is no magic fix, or even fixes. There is just too much unknown factors. To me it just seems more high end focused, pvp, and competitive natured players through a few expansions have just migrated to Horde. Alliance are seemingly more casual/laid back.
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