My tank is 445 and I still get pulled for as well…dps are fickle creatures with egos that get bruised easily if you dont pull enough to let them pad numbers.
I was tanking an 8 for a friend trying to gear her toons and she didnt have the best gear so I was pulling consistently, but slower than I normally would in a dungeon of that level so I didnt stress her out and this overly confident DH that was doung the least amount of dmg out of all of us kept pulling everything to make his numbers look better. So me being me, I let him tank it… Took him 5 times to realize I wasnt playing that game with him nor was the healer since he also stood in literally everything and dying too. We were on task to 3 chest it even without him pulling like that and you doing even faster hails little reward except maybe a few points to io scores but at thay level you would replace it anyway. Tanks need thick skins because youll come across dps like this all the time.
For you I would just say: Make sure to use sources for gear priority, rotation and best stats so you can survive. Start out by doing nornal mythics or low keys where the timers are more forgiving too.
I play all tanks but monk and DH. If your friend needs help tell me their in game name and server and about what times i can see them online. No issue coaching or helping, I also expect nothing but patience in return.
I direct most new players to FFXIV. Feel in love with that game during BFA and have put over 5k hours into it since. Has more RPG elements than WoW. WoW is just bleh now.
Indeed. When exiles reach first came out i made a gnome warrior just to try it out. I tried to be as Prot Warr as i could, but in the end the NPCs just said “Nope lil guy you cant do this job, we will do it for you”
Is that what I was suggesting? What I was suggesting is that you can’t ignore reality because You don’t feel like it should be reality.
Using your analogy… That would be refusing to have or adhere to safety drills when you have a shooter, because you don’t think shootings should exist
I never shot down the notion that it should get better. I only Criticize ignoring the reality of you being a better player in the meantime by utilizing wowhead and the like until its better
I don’t really like using outside sources. But I do anyway. I watch a lot of videos before tanking a new dungeon. I want to see both videos that concentrate on handling boss mechanics and those that involve walkthroughs, so I don’t have to look at the map and have an idea of how to handle trash packs. I’m kind of a slow learner, but eventually I get to the point where no one would ever guess I was new to the dungeon. Then I specific queue for it.
Honestly this may sound harsh, but if you’re not even willing to look up guides or YouTube videos, tanking won’t be for you
The amount of knowledge needed to be a good tank is extremely high and if you aren’t willing to learn through tools that exist, you will simply just be wasting everyone’s time in your runs
Ugh, unless you are doing high content, one can learn via practice and refining. The real issue is instead of building a SOLID base, people tend to go for the higher keys that reward the best gear/upgrades.
I seldom, if EVER, use youtube videos for anything more then raid boss fights, and even then it is more just for an overview. I do use icy veins and wowhead guides for spec, stats and the like, but I prefer to learn the dungeons by doing. More so cause sometimes I need to be able to adjust based on the group or things that are going on.
My method? I don’t increase key of dungeon, barring getting it as my key for the week, unless I have a TIMED key of the same dungeon of the level lower, even if this is for 16+ (15 and lower I just go by my highest key done + or -1 or so.
Am I the best out there? no, but I like to think of myself as solid.
If one learns best by watching vids, power to them, ones like me? we learn best by doing, maybe with aids like boss mods. For some of us, that means we might forego vids but use other sources (I.E. boss guides and such).
You’re out of your mind if you don’t think you’re going to fail many, many more times not using guides and videos as opposed to someone who does. The problem being that tanking is a role that requires the most dungeon knowledge… this means that all the time you’re going to spend failing or making runs harder than they need to be just going for sheer repetition is punishing every single person you group with.
I’ve played with people that are 2800 IO that completely don’t have a clue as to what they are doing. It’s easy enough to eventually get lucky with a solid group that can carry someone through a run and that persons ignorance lead them to believe that they deserved it as opposed to realizing they were the weak link.
This is the equivalent of telling people, just look it up kid.
I dunno why, but I can’t stand that. Like you know the information, so why not just tell it to me straight.
That is what I would do. If I knew how to tank. I would be helping the person get better. Not, oh man, you know, outside sources.
Sure they exist. But I do feel like you should be able to get help from your fellow gamers now and then to.
ANd of course the old days before the internet, it was, go read a book. I swear the people who say that are selfish AF. But whatever. That is just me though. If I know the info. I will gladly give it out. Not to hard.
While I will agree that being completely unwilling to use external sources is a bit insane and kind of shooting yourself right in the face, I think everything in WoW was designed to be learned in-game. After all - the sites which give you all this information to begin with must’ve had people who learned it somehow, someway, right?
The reason why I am dismissive of people asking really basic questions (and telling them to look it up), in my experience, is because if I do answer them “straight” as you want me to, that puts me on the hook for answering a whole bunch more questions. I don’t want that commitment, and if you try to force that on me you are the one who is in the wrong, not me.
I don’t want my kindness to be taken for weakness. If I answer one really basic question, and get 200 more, it was not worth my time for me to answer the first one. And decades of dealing with this on the internet has led me to that. So yes, I will always tell you where you can find information, rather than giving you information outright - it’s not you, it’s me, and I don’t want to be abused for my knowledge.