This would be my first time leveling as a tank and I’m just curious how they are doing overall? I created a level 20 character as dark iron and did 1 dungeon and it wasn’t bad at all. Obviously as I level it will be harder. Anyone know any good addons for tanking and how end game is as a tank. Honestly I’m most likely going to stick with mythics keys because raiding as a tank I’m a little scared. Is there rotation easier than other classes? Are other tanks better? I want honest opinions.
They’re decent. I find mine a lot of fun (and main it). I tank heroic raids and M+ up to the 12-13 mark. I don’t think the class is limiting me
Death knights were FOTM last season.
This season is Warriors.
Paladins are great at handling interupt mechanics. That’s about it. We have good party utility like spellward, sacrifice, LoH too I guess.
Still, better than DH or Druid tanks LUL.
I play a BDK main and alt this guy. Prot is a lot of fun and has good damage and utility - just very different utility from DK.
Mitigation is good, damage is pretty good, on demand self heals to help out your healer between pulls or when you have a couple seconds during boss mechanics and fun stuff like spellwarding for bursting, bop for necrotic and final stand bubble taunt for gigapulls.
We are a middle-of-the-road tank. We have enough utility to be acceptable in heroic/mythic raiding and mythic dungeons. Take a look at the RaiderIO leaderboards for Paladin tanks in M+:
raider . io/mythic-plus-character-rankings/season-bfa-2/world/paladin/tank#content
There are more than 80 Paladin tanks above 2000 rating. Demon Hunters (27) and Druids (11) have far less players at that level, while Death Knights (238) and Warriors (211) have considerably more representation.
The basics of tanking on a Paladin are very easy. There is no rotation but a priority system: stand in consecrate, use Judgment as quickly as possible to keep up Shield of the Righteous, and fill with Hammer of the Righteous and Avenger’s Shield. Like most classes, mastering the class is hard. Knowing when to use cooldowns and utility abilities takes a lot of experience.
I play Death Knight, Paladin, and Warrior tanks and I think the Warrior is the most “fun” - it’s far more mobile and interactive. That said, it’s also the squishiest and more reliant on healers. I feel much safer on my Paladin in most situations.
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I don’t really have anything to add of my own.
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Reaping.
Final Stand.
Victory!
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Paladin might not be the easiest tank to learn (not to say it’s hard, or that any tank is hard for that matter), but it’s a great beginner’s tank because it contains all the fundamentals of tanking that you can apply to the other tanks.
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Paladin is in Middle of Pack for M+ and Raiding. ( for Raiding few Guild even uses double Prot for certain boss). Since u r new in tank business, paladin is one of the easiest and well rounded tank for beginner. Tons of Survivability option. Only thing matter is Mastering its utility which makes paladin tank Indomitable. I have BDK, Vengeance and Prot Pally, ( Will Make one Warrior later), so far i am enjoying my pally best. It has almost all utility to counter any M+ or Raiding Mechanics. If you know which trait and talents to pick up depends Affix, u can easily do any 10+ Mythic.
As far as addons go, 1st get good mouseovers for your utilities (BoP, dispel, LoH, hand/light of the protector), this is smart for any class but it lets you be very efficient and quick while tanking. Use various addons to rearrange your UI, the default is terrible for tanking. Check streamers for ideas but in general you want to keep things tighter to the lower and middle of the screen. I use a mix of bartender and shadowed unit frames, and grid for raids. I also use Luxthos’s paladin weak auras and make some of my own (like a big obnoxious progress bar tracking shield of the righteous uptime for example). Theres weakauras for just about every affix and dungeon so just spend time browsing wago io. I am still searching for a good nameplate addon I like, right now I’m using default but set to Large and its better than anything I’ve tried (but please send me recommendations tho if anyones reading this)
For endgame, we’re sort of good at everything and great at nothing. Our interrupt suite is possibly our biggest strength, followed by healing and AoE damage. Mitigation is easy. Mobility is meh. A lot of talents can be viable especially for different m+ affixes.
I would say our rotation is easy, but I havent tanked with other classes this expac so I cant compare. It doesnt feel hard, and theres always something to press. The hard part is mixing in your utility when needed, which isnt actually that hard once you get good frames/mouseovers and muscle memory.
Afaik, warrior tanks are better at dps, bdk’s are better for grips/self heals/mitigation, monks are better in raids, but we seem objectively better than druids. Ultimately, if you’re doing up to +15, prot paladin is fine, especially if you run with friends that dont care about specs of the month. Unsure about mythic raiding but we are definitely viable in heroic.
Prot paladin is doing extremely well right now. Their big downside is limited uptime on active mitigation, which can be minimized through high haste and good play. That said, when SoTR is up, you feel bulletproof (or so I did in the 16/17 keys I’ve been doing lately). And with practice, you’ll know exactly when you need to have it up.
I main paladin and alt BDK and although BDK’s mobb control is #1, paladin feels like a brick freaking wall and I’ve definitely started to favor that playstyle vs. getting trucked as a BDK and then self-healing it back.
Warrior is OP right now, it has insane physical mitigation and is currently extremely over powered in the DPS department. We’re expecting to see heavy nerfs to their DPS and when that happens they will be brought back in line with Monk/DK/Paladin.
Paladin has a very engaging ‘rotation’. It’s not a rotation per say, rather a priority system. Make sure you take the 2x judgment talent because judging reduces time on SoTR. Between using SoTR, Avengers shield, 2x judgment, consecration, and Hammer there’s always a button to press, and that is nice.
Judgements reduce the CD on SoTR and Hammer gives a chance to proc A free avengers shield. So if you have uptime on SoTR or don’t need it you can prioritize going to shield procs for extra interrupts, and vice versa if you need extra damage mitigation. It make’s the playstyle very engaging.
I think what makes me nervous tanking in the first time is knowing tanking mechanics when I’m so used to dps mechanics. In the beginning at lower levels till like 80 the mechanics aren’t that bad but as you go higher up does it get worse. Like BFA is the mechanics hard to learn? Like crown control doesn’t seem difficult or mitigation bc I can heal for any reason the healer is having trouble.
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Use Threat Plate ( Another Modified Version of TidyPlate), Very Easy and Customizable to Every Needs, ex: Change color for Missing Threat, Setting Huge Cast Bar, Tracking of All CD’s of Mobs and Boss above Nameplate etc.
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Tanking is very Easy, You will learn once you started to practice it. I can’t say about Raiding, But i do tanking in M+, As per mechanic in all the M+, first thing you need to see which affix is up and what Talents you should be running to and what gear is best suited for particular Dungeon and Affix, ex: During Sanguine Affix Never Pick Consecration Slow. Need to know what kind of mobs you gonna face, If too many Melee hitting Mobs, pick BOP, if Caster mobs , Pick Spell warding. DBM / Small Wigs is your best Friend. Plan Ahead of what utility you have and when to use them to mitigate the Boss Damages. As a paladin you have strong ability called Dispell. There are some disease / toxin ability you can dispell urself before it eats chunks of your health. Keep one charge of SotR for DBM Saying " Use Defensive". That’s All.
my biggest complaint is holding threat on geared demon hunters.
they press 2 buttons and do 40k dps and it takes me 3 globals to pull back threat on one mob.
there’s a talent though you can take which is when you use bubble you aoe taunt all targets to you so I guess that is something but you gotta bubble for it.
Final stand on reaping? Thats such a massive waste.
Agreed. Reaping doesn’t require bubble. Whole group just needs to LOS all the reaping mobs and just move left/right while kicking casters. Reaping is fun, but super easy. Just requires a little planning.
Have you tried out threatplates?
I actually prefer first avenger over crusader’s judgment especially for this week.
It really helps boost my DPS to kill all that trash faster and it procs Bulwark of Light trait constantly too.
Using Final Stand is perfectly fine on Reaping.