Title says it all
Pretty much every spec is at least decent BM saw some play in the awc is a mage counter. Marksmen still really strong tol
You won’t get invited to RBGs, but you can climb the arena ladder. BM is pretty strong after the buff. Games are winnable, but hunter is not a meta spec, so expect to waste a lot of time in group finder.
3 hours found 2 people, I accepted the first person who would join regardless of cr/class.
Well, it is hours of sitting in LFG followed by joining a group and told to sit at a base and wait for their rogue to come destroy you.
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Yeah BM seems to be much stronger in 2s and 3s. I was struggling around 2k as MM in 2s but when I swapped to BM I pushed to 2.1k much easier. MM’s burst window is too easily denied. BM’s constant pressure seems better overall in my opinion. Im still playing Kyrian but may make the swap to venthyr. MM definitely better in RBGs in my opinion cause your pet gets destroyed on most maps.
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This is so true it hurts.
Or the Boomkin root/beam + Rogue.
“Why didn’t you call inc?!?”
lol…
Even if you are on Comms it doesn’t matter. As a group you try and keep track of enemy rogue and it still doesn’t matter.
They open you pop CDs to stay alive, they restealth and open, you maybe get a kite going, they restealth, they open and you are dead. I love how hunter’s mark doesn’t truly do anything against them either.
Are we the same person? I was literally just crabbing about this. Remember when hunters were the anti-rogue? I’m not sure we’re anti anything at this point.
With the Feign Death lego, we make a warlocks life hell.
Totally agree with you guys. Back in the day I had no fear of them. Oh does detect hidden do anything actually? It seems that they always have one more gap closer than I a cd to survive.
They don’t get invited to most RBGs and honestly I don’t see why. I understand there is a meta but people get brainwashed into thinking you have to run a certain comp or you lose. Hunters are fine in RBGs imo but be prepared to base sit most of the time as a hunter. It’s nearly impossible to stealth cap on a non brain dead hunter
Should be on coms anyway. They might cap on you but you’ll have your team peeling to defend and if you have a pet out like you should if your base sitting you might be able to spin it until help arrives
I am on coms, and I do have a pet out. Thank you for sharing your almost prescient knowledge of how base-sitting fights unfold between a rogue and hunter…
If a rogue has literally ANY brains and all their CDs (which they do when they go base-knapping), a hunter has precious few options for outplay. And by precious few, I mean zero. The best you can hope for is scaring him off if there’s a gear disparity in favor of the hunter.
if you are kyrian milanikos helps for base sitting
I’m not really sure why anyone would sit a hunter at this point except for so long that was the way its done. Personally I think you’re probably better off with a pally or DH/Guardian tank.
Everytime I see a hunter they either die in 2 seconds and doesn’t matter if they call out. Or they get CC capped.
And for the record the capping team is faster to respond to the call than the team that gets their base tagged because they know it’s coming and got out of combat a few seconds sooner. So recovering a cap is not a simple task.
BM actually is ok at sitting with the hard stun. They still can get ganked by rogues but definitely have a better chance than MM. MM can be good in big team fights but the aoe nerf to WS hurt nightfae MM cleave. There are alo better dps to bring that can do the same, and more, in a team fight. On the whole though, Hunter really isn’t that great in rbgs.
Arena, MM is very telegraphed in its burst, so any competent player or team will know how to counter it. There are also a lot of hard counters (spriest fade, disarm, shaman earthen totem, or just a stun) that shut down MM completely for 1 minute, since MM dicks around outside its burst window. MM are a weaker version of fire mage.
BM is a little better, but is more sustained dmg in a meta that’s still more burst focused.
You guys need to be a goblin hunter if you want to base sit. The racial rocket attack can be used while stunned, incapacitated, etc. there is literally no way for rogue to cap flag unless he kills you first.
This is the truth. In arena, I just run around doing constant pressure, saving all my defensive CDs for when the pally gets his wings back, or a mage is fixin to combust.
The depressing part is the burst we take. I was stunned by a DH and thought “I’ll just sit this.” Literally no setup on his part. The Hunt into Fel Rush double crit for combined 33k damage in one shot. Now I know to RoS it, but wtf? Can you imagine how fast hunters would be nerfed if we were doing that kind of burst?
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I can! It happened to MM a few weeks after the expansion launched, while everyone had little vers gear still.
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