How Are DPS Warriors in TBC?

how are dps warriors during tbc? I dont wanna roll one now, only to find out no one is inviting me to raids when TBC comes. I’m not planning on going hardcore, But I want to experiance Kara, Gruul, Magtheradon, and Zul Aman as a DPS warrior in TBC Classic.

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from what i’ve read, not great

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I played some Fury and a lot of Arms in TBC, and I actually enjoyed both in PvE. Fury was a little easier to do good dps, but the Arms slam spec was pretty good too, and was fun to play.

I think Fury had a higher ceiling overall in terms of PvE damage, but the Arms bleed debuff was pretty cool too.

Ok…not great rather have an owl or a hunter tbh

We don’t know. We haven’t been where we are now, there. And nobody really has. The PServer drones played Vanilla. There’s not a very long history of BC server players who will be on Classic BC…

It’s sort of fresh snow with a little “watch out for that yellow snow.”

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Which were good on Pservers, but not ever really on Blizzard servers…

Not what they are in classic… So you can let that dream die man.

A lot of people play them in classic because of how unreal they are. Thats not the case in TBC. They DPS like a Hybrid class that has the option of tanking or DPSing. Meaning, hybrid tax applied from that era. You aren’t going to touch the top dps Classes of TBC like the Warlock/Hunter, so don’t expect to.

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Arms will get 1 slot because they’ come with a +4% physical damage buff for all physical DPS in the raid.

Both Arms and Fury are victims of the same brutal scaling that Warriors are always at the mercy of. They won’t ever be a consistent top DPS… the scaling simply isn’t there in TBC. It’s a problem Rogues suffer from as well, even after Warglaives are available.

When you couple that with the fact that TBC raids are overflowing with absolutely draconian anti-melee mechanics, you should expect melee DPS spots to be at a premium. Raids that stack hunters and warlocks for DPS are going to push further, faster just by nature of how the classes function in TBC. If you’re dead set on being a melee DPS and want to guarantee a raid slot I recommend Arms or Enhancement. Both bring buffs which no raid wants to be without for the melee they DO bring (Blood Frenzy, Unleashed Rage). If you want to switch hit as necessary, a Ret/Holy Paladin is also acceptable due to the fact that ret brings +3% crit, MOAR BLESSINGS, another flat +% buff for the melee group (Imp Sanctity Aura) and like Classic you can heal most things effectively as Ret if you have the gear.

If you just want to spit out fat yellow numbers, Warlock is what you want. They’re damn near playing a different game than the rest of the DPS classes.

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Not just a dps/numbers/utility matter, I have yet to meet an owl who isn’t super cool and laid back

Fair. I would not contest this. I once saw a snowy owl IRL, and was incredibly impressed…

If classic in its current state is a point of reference, the warriors are like the angels that’s fallen from grace.

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I’m super excited to play a warlock in TBC.

I’m not looking to be at the top. But if warriors are bad like naxx hunters that it’s hard getting a group I might just roll tauren hunter.

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If my guild wasn’t already set on Warlocks I’d be making one as well. However I’ll be better served with my Ele Shaman and Paladin. I’m still torn on what spec I want to play for my Paladin though between Ret or Prot. Healing’s never been my thing.

Orc. Beast Mastery scaling is absolutely BONKERS in T4/T5. Later tiers skew towards Survival as your agility starts making it so that Lightning Reflexes offers more damage (and efficiency, Survival has a deep talent that makes ability crits refund 40% of their cost) but the orc +pet damage racial early on is going to give you a serious edge over non-Orc hunters.

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What about boomkin druids? I remember hearing balance is useful for the buff but without having to deal with those punishing melee mechanics. So it’s an easy spot for 10 mans Also I can off heal

Boomkin are upper-middling damage. Their damage output is MASSIVELY boosted over Classic and their sustain issue is nullified due to a 5 point passive MP/5 talent they get that scales with how much Int they’ve got.

I’m not against healing too, but having a dps to fall back on for harder content if I’m struggling is nice

Is that what you’re rolling?

Nah, as I said earlier I’m gonna be rolling Ele and either Ret or Prot for my Paladin. My Warrior is likely staying 60 when TBC comes out. I’ve always liked the way TBC Ret and Prot played. They’re both amazingly fun. As is Elemental.

We’ll see. I think Prot is going to be good. Ret/Ele not so much.