I know they can pull off crazy stunts like healing of mobs but how are they in duel scenarios?
Dh is the strongest dueler who might lose only to DK in certain situations
We are pretty good if talented right but if you are fighting a bursty class with a stun ability you are in big trouble.
Rigged…they got three buttons to press and you win.
are dh’s good against pallys?
Everything being equal gear/skill a dh should win.
Sweet. Pallys are my worst enemy on my lock, warrior, and rogue and so this is comforting to hear that there is a class that can stand up to them lol. I just wish you could glyph out meta since its soo ugly.
locks Do ok, and rogues that learn to reset the fight and not face tank the burst damage do well too…warriors don’t do well against a pally.
Thanks Heretic. Also, which spec does dh struggle with the most?
If the DH can stay connected and keep meta up for prolonged periods of time they are exceedingly difficult. As a shadowpriest, it’s exceptionally hard to try and beat them - having zero realistic means of keeping them away from you (no effective kiting snares), and having them use focused beam / cyclotronic in meta, it’s very hard to do anything meaningful. I can see where Hec says a stun with high burst - they aren’t healing through your damage
There fixed it for you
Every PvP tier list is partially influenced by personal, subjective factors. But I’m going to try to be as unbiased as possible. The following chart only considers damage specs. Tanks and healers are viable, and often rather strong, in 1v1. However, there is just too much to calculate and consider when including them. Subsections list classes in no particular order (or at most a very rough idea of order - don’t take listing order too seriously).
Tier A - “Top Tier”
Unholy Death Knight
Havoc Demon Hunter
Retribution Paladin
Arcane Mage
Subtlety Rogue
Feral Druid
Tier B - “Highly Effective”
Windwalker Monk
Assassination Rogue
Outlaw Rogue
Survival Hunter
Fire Mage
Frost Mage
Demonology Warlock
Destruction Warlock
Shadow Priest
Enhancement Shaman
Fury Warrior
Frost Death Knight
Tier 3 - “More suited for mass/group PvP”
Elemental Shaman
Balance Druid
Beast Master Hunter
Marksmanship Hunter
Affliction Warlock
Arms Warrior
In order to absolutely maximize your 1v1 capability as a Demon Hunter, you must spec into Demonic Appetite. This will, over the course of a PvP battle, heal for you more than your entire HP bar (sometimes several times over); this makes the talent invaluable for surviving fights with some of the tankier specs out there (warlocks, DKs, Rets, even Mages).
Additionally, you must spec into the PvP talent that buffs “Darkness.” That ability, when enhanced, is a very potent defensive. I also highly recommend Reign From Above, as it is both an offensive and defensive bomb.
Otherwise, DH is pretty much auto-pilot. Just focus on using your defensives at the correct time. By chaining together Blur + Darkness + Reign, you have a good 20+ seconds of virtual invulnerability: taking significantly less damage, in conjunction with Metamorphosis health leech and Demonic Appetite lesser soul shard healing, makes you essentially unkillable and dealing insane DPS.
The only specs that can hope to beat you, must outlast your damage and defensive cooldowns, and ideally engage you in “normal” (as opposed to Metamorphosis) form, and with your defensives on CD.
A word of caution: without Meta + Blur/Darkness/Reign, you will go down fast. So don’t be outlasted, because you will almost certainly lose if you don’t win quickly enough. (But the good news is that you almost always win quickly enough.)
nah Home slice…dh rotation is simplistic compared to rets
So can fury…
Edit: as fury I can win 1v1 against most DHs.
fury healing off the mobs is not the same at all lol. even if you kill 5 mobs simultaneously you still only get one victory rush… dh gets one orb per mobs kill and if they want can even save some to eat later in the fight.
Dude we seriously have the same 3-4 abilities to dmg lol you can´t save your class.
Why are subtlety rogues so good? Isn’t their damage bad(recent buff seemed minimal)
Fire Mage and Windwalker Monk can be insane 1v1 as well.
As Feral, we are sticky as heck but we can go down in a CC burst.
Best part is we can run away pretty well.
Not a terrible list but there’s a few things you have wrong.
- Sub rogue is tier 3. Their kit is all about control and less about damage.
- Sin rogue is top tier. I think you just had your rogues mixed up.
- Frost dk is top tier. They can build significantly more rp than unholy for deathstrikes. You just don’t see them because of unholy’s pvp toolkit + being bad for most of bfa.
It’s hard to make lists like this in general because of rock, paper, scissors in 1v1. For example, a warrior may think an arcane mage is s tier but a feral will think they are crap tier.
Which is the best spec for 1v1 with no pillar?