I tried M+ for first time as Feral Druid and got stomped at every boss, doing rotation and trying to stay out of the bad. Usually play resto but wanted to try DPS. Is DK any easier being melee as well or is M+ Melee just that chaotic in general?
Not looking to push super high keys, just enjoy content
overpowered and deserves a nerf
Extremely bad. You have to choose between ST or AOE you cant get a good mixture of both like most classes, thats what i think holds back UDK in M+
Honestly not good. At least at lower keys. Like Frickdk said, you are forced to choose between AoE and Single Target.
Except our AoE is sustained damage for the most part so we can’t burst anything down. Our ST damage is entirely CD dependent as our core rotation does pretty craptacular damage.
The only thing we’re good at in M+ is staying alive and when paired with 2 other good DPS, blowing up bosses with Unholy’s opening burst. If you have mediocre DPSers in your group and the boss stays alive too long, your damage falls off a cliff toward the end of the fight unless it goes long enough for all 27 of our CDs to come back up.
The tank has to base the pulls around your 2 minute cds or you do literally 0 damage.
so not good.
Even leveling feels strange. I love my class and spec but the damage feels low and the aoe is wonky. I hope things get smoothed out for unholy because theres a lot of talents and buttons that could be meshed together for a smoother experience. Frost also has a lot of problems right now so obviously the class needs to be looked into very soon… 
Frost and Unholy are both mediocre at best in M+. Utility is weak compared to most other classes, and damage isn’t impressive either, unless the tank pulls big and times the pulls around your cooldowns, and even then, other classes can do better consistent damage on top of having more useful utility. I can’t recommend either of them. If you want to play DK in M+, go Blood. It’s quite good right now, and it has more utility than Unholy or Frost.
Every time this question is asked (and in half the specs), people complain about lack of utility. It’s becoming comical, and quite frankly a crutch for people to use to cover up poor performance. Unless you’re running in a coordinated group or at the very top of keys, you’re lucky if you can even get people to kick spells let alone use all of their utility at the proper moments.
DKs and every other class are fine for 95% of the playerbase. The people playing at the tippy top already have alts they switch to based on balancing. And before someone comes in whining, you can easily go to sucreation and see that DKs are completing the same level of keys as most other classes. There isn’t some huge gap.
No wonder why you play TROLL. That 5% tip top players have the most influence on the entire m+ state. Currently unholy and frost’s performance is terrible in comparison to other top specs. With 123563 ww, DH, rogue, enha, arcane, MM, demo in queue, even a dumbest party leader would pick them over a DK anyday unless you have significantly higher rio and better gear or they are desperately in need of a brez. DK belongs to the bottom half of the pack in m+ while providing less ultities than them. Having a good tank spec, Blood, unholy and frost struggle even more tp find a spot because they overlap ultities with tank spec.
I started tanking blood for mythics. Kept getting tanks that are not doing the pulls or mechanics right. Costing me and my brother the keys. So now that I’m tanking and I’m enjoying it. Blood dps makes me happy on big chain pulls.
All that whining… Maybe in your hurry to rant you somehow missed the fact that frost and unholy have both completed keys at levels equal to most other specs, including the ones you’re whining about.
The irony is you’re actually complaining about random strangers not wanting you for a group based on nonsensical drivel that you and others help create. Every single class forum, including your so-called top performing specs, all have posts whining about needing buffs. You perpetuate the very thing you whine about.
Lul at equal, you dont know what you are talking about. Top DK right now has 1 SBG21. While others are running 23. Also look at the number of frost and unholy in comparison to other dps classes, lul, we are better only than ret and devoker.
Btw I main tank, I dont play dps, so it’s not whining, it’s just a fact. And the first thing I do when I see a DK in queue is to instantly decline.
So, you’re complaining about specs at key levels you don’t even complete, and most of the playerbase isn’t completing… Thanks for proving my point. The sad irony is I doubt you even get it.
As I said you are a troll, higher brackets reflect the lower bracket, 2 key level = 21% more dmg taken + 21 % dps required. In short, having a DK is inferior to bringing other better specs, why would you risk your key to invite a stranger DK over another better spec with similar gear and rio ?
Also what made you assume that’s the key level I dont complete ?
Listen to me I’m just like you I don’t go super hard and I enjoy the game at my own pace. I love my death knight and you would too I’ve done up to 14s on my Death Knight and crush dungeons.
Also you can play 2h oblit in keys of you want I do especially with pug tanks.
Feels wonky honestly since your basically playing for your next cool down to light up. Some pulls you go big dick. Others you do tank dps if they are pulling the next group before your CDs are up. It works and its like B tier so not bad but there’s certainly other dps that feels smoother to play with less effort.
I have been having pretty good success as Frost in M+ dungeons. We have multiple cooldowns to rotate between packs so our DPS is never in the gutter, and our ST is pretty good as long as you have BoS up. Having 100% uptime on bosses isn’t that hard to pull off, and i’m usually top of charts. Overall, i’m around 32-35k overall damage when the M+ dungeon is complete.
Do yourself a favor, if M+ is your focus and you haven’t invested heavily into your DK, play another class.
Both frost and unholy are very unforgiving in pugs. In lower keys most pedal to the metal melees will invalidate your CDs as they have massive upfront/on demand damage. WW, Havoc DH, and fury warrior all seem like strong options if you’re looking to have fun and put up decent numbers without requiring maximum effort.
I actually almost died on my Frost DK pulling a single mob the other day doing a quest at 65. 280ilvl, feels weird that I feel like I need to go buy 309 gear to level.
My monk leveling as MW killed things faster.
Funnily enough, Dorki and Growl, who are both some of the best mythic plus players in the world, are making a mythic plus tier list and unholy is in A tier. But I’m sure the forum warriors know better.