Housing: Each Decoration is One Time Use And Too Expensive

I like the cost. Decorations are more fun when they require a bit of work to feel more earned and special.

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LOL that has got to be one of the most out there thoughts I’ve seen on this topic.

You do realize no one will see your house right? Unless you drag them in. Doesn’t matter.

This has got to be a troll. I can’t imagine anyone with a brain in their head would have this thought seriously.

I’m just sitting back laughing because housing is absolutely expensive as heck in at least one MMORPG I can think of. I still miss playing that game, off and on, and yet there was a weird sense of relief when I passed 45 days of not playing and lost my house. /shrug

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… Where are you buying from? The most expensive item I saw from the basic vendors at the housing area was 150g… Buying 1 of each item is nowhere near 100k.

EDIT: Now I am curious how expensive it actually is to buy 1 of everything… Imma hop on and check.

EDIT 2:
Aight, so here is the cost breakdown.


Alliance Side:

Faarden the Builder:
Page 1 (10 Items) : 1075g
Page 2 (10 Items): 1100g
Page 3 (10 items): 1025g
Page 4 (5 items): 435g
Total: 3635g for 35 items

Xiao Dan:
Page 1 (10 Items): 580g
Page 2 (10 Items): 850g
Page 3 (10 Items): 545g
Page 4 (10 Items): 900g
Page 5 (10 Items): 545g
Page 6 (2 Items): 100g
Total: 3520g for 52 items

Balen Starfinder:
Page 1 (10 Items): 825g
Page 2 (10 Items): 620g
Page 3 (10 Items): 560g
Page 4 (10 Items): 800g
Page 5 (5 Items): 300g
Total: 3105g for 45 items

Argan Hammerfist:
Page 1 (10 Items): 810g
Page 2 (2 Items): 200g
Total: 1010g for 12 items

Trevor Grenner:
Page 1 (10 Items): 710g
Page 2 (10 Items): 410g
Page 3 (10 Items): 425g
Page 4 (1 Item): 50g
Total: 1595g for 31 items


Alliance Total: 12,965 for 175 items


Horde Side:

Shon’ja:
Page 1 (10 Items): 760g
Page 2 (10 Items): 580g
Page 3 (6 Items): 610g
Total: 1950g for 36 items

Gronthul:
Page 1 (10 Items): 625g
Page 2 (10 Items): 725g
Page 3 (10 Items): 800g
Page 4 (10 Items): 850g
Page 5 (10 Items): 495g
Page 6 (9 Items): 435g
Total: 3930g for 59 items

Lefton Farrer:
Page 1 (10 Items): 810g
Page 2 (2 Items): 200g
Total: 1010g for 12 items

Jehzar Starfall:
Page 1 (10 Items): 825g
Page 2 (10 Items): 620g
Page 3 (10 Items): 560g
Page 4 (10 Items): 800g
Page 5 (5 Items): 300g
Total: 3105g for 45 items

Botanist Boh’an:
Page 1 (10 Items): 585g
Page 2 (10 Items): 460g
Page 3 (3 items): 150g
Total: 1195g for 23 items


Horde Total: 11,190 for 175 items


Total for both factions: 24,155 for 350 items


Now, this is just purchasing from the Alliance and Horde Neighborhoods, buying one of each item, 350 items total, is only 24,155g. A quarter of what you are claiming TC.

Unless you went off and found a rep vendor selling something at a crazy price and are throwing those into the mix. But then I would counter argue “It would cost literally millions of gold to buy every mount” with some mounts being as expensive as 500k to 1m for a single mount.

Not only have you already been busted sock puppeting to “bump” your own thread, as you claim, but you are so far off of your claim of “It cost me 100k” that its flat out absurd. And if you are including like… rep locked, very unique items, then I argue your whole point is disingenuous because this is literally no different from Mounts, Pets, or Transmog.

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You lost the house?? That’s extortion. lol

“Stay subbed or we take away everything you spent years earning and working on. Great company, right there.

And this dude is whining items are too expensive! LOL

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Over all I think some prices should drop and some items should be sold as multipack like cobblestone and fence items, like sell in 5s

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Yeah, just went to each neighborhood and hand counted each vendor and their costs and TC is just pulling numbers out of nowhere… (My previous post breaks down each neighborhood vendor)

Across 2 neighborhoods, 350 items cost 24k gold to buy one of each… which the average player isn’t going to buy 1 of each… They are going to buy what they want to use or what gives EXP (green or above quality items)

Not to mention the TC was already caught sockpuppeting to “bump” their thread. The whole thing stinks. Its not even a genuine talking point because the same argument could be made for transmog, mounts, heirlooms, battle pets, etc “You have to spend millions of gold to get everything!” yeah… it’s a long term investment goal…

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And the prices prove it! Dayum! Brothers brought receipts!! Thank you guys, the numbers don’t lie, do they??? LOL

It’s been awhile since I’ve witnessed such a spectacular crash ‘n’ burn as this. Holy smokes lol

Now to throw in my own numbers - Know how I spent all that gold in 2 days?? I ran all over the entire game for hours and hours literally buying insane multiples…..like 20 or so of everything and I didn’t care what it was or how stupid the item was for a big Green monstrous Orc Warrior to buy and for BOTH Horde and Alliance houses. For two days I hit the PTR and the first weekend I was there for 15 hours straight. The second weekend I pulled a nutty bender of around a full 24 hours straight.

This dude claims he bought 1 of “everything” and in buying 1 of everything, that end cost was 100k.

I did anywhere from 20ish of “everything” I could find both Horde and Alliance in those marathons and I only blew around 150k. And that also included things like buying plots and moving plots, losing random gold from weird lag and disconnections that cost me some gold, being lazy and using flight paths for travel everywhere, like not JUST decor counted in that 150k and I still got closer to “bought everything” than he did, guaranteed. LOL

So yeah. I highly doubt he ran all over the game and spent ⅛ the amount of time and searching and sheer SPENDING I did over an entire weekend test.

I don’t know. If something about whatever part of the game bugs you, it’s fine to say so! But my whole problem is the use of hyperbolic exaggeration, attempts at manipulation using sock puppets to agree with himself, and just the downright deceit. Lying in general is annoying. But going to THIS extent is……oof…… :face_with_peeking_eye:

Sorry…..this is just embarrassing at this point. $5 bet he bought a chair, needed 2, realizes GASP he has to buy TWO CHAIRS!!! Then just ran here to complain about a chair and figured he’d be a hero. And then he gets……this glorious example of self destruction I probably have ever seen! lol

Does anyone else have that goofy song “why you always lyyyin all that time, why you always lying, Lying what you do, you Lyon so much, oh my God why you always lyyyyyyin!!

It’s my earwig now. So there’s that. LOL

Edit - sorry I needed to lower my item estimates after checking my screenshots and the video from my stream. Yep, I did buy multiples of everything, but closer to around 20 of “everything”, give or take here and there. Wanted to make sure I was representing myself honestly here. :wink:

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Beta JUST started. Send your feedback via the in-game reporter, to ensure they receive it. Use the “Issue Reporter” and start your message with FEEDBACK so they know it’s not a bug.

You CAN craft items in WoW; every profession can craft furnishings plus Alchemists and Scribes can craft Dyes. And unless you have stockpiled mats or are willing to do that now on Live or wait til launch and do it then, you will either still have to pay tons of gold to purchase the mats on the AH. Same for crafting housing items in other games, and for EQII if you want Holiday crafted items, you darned well better be out there harvesting the special Holiday mats or you are SoL.

I know of NO other MMO with housing where it’s a “Buy one, have as many as you want forever and ever”; you will ALWAYS have to purchase as many as you want or need from whatever source you have chosen.

Yes, housing preview is broken, this is BETA - Things do not always work right away, or properly ESPECIALLY on Day 1. You chose to spend 100K to purchase items, you were not forced to do so. Not to mention, you can copy your account information to Beta. Go dump all your gold into the Warbank & copy it over. Create level 80 Beta characters, dump their gold into the Warbank, delete the character and repeat. It’s not like on Live, there are multiple ways to obtain a lot of gold without spending a single real-life penny. You can even recopy your account information to refresh the gold that is in there after you take it all out on your Beta character.

None of this will transfer to Live, will you also post a frantic, frustrated and angry thread when Midnight goes live that you “invested hours and hours” designing your Beta home only to have to do it again? (As for that, copious amounts of screenshots before Beta ends will help recreate whatever you are super pleased with when it goes live.)

This. Is. BETA. It is NOT a Demo. It is NOT release or release-ready. It is A TEST, where we give feedback, ideas and report bugs. To get so upset over something on Day 1 is massive over-reaction. There’s quite a while for them to fix &/or make changes, but angsty, threatening and over-reactive threads are not going to get their attention.

Also, there are Endeavors in the Neighborhoods, which can now be tested. Endeavors have rewards. There is an NPC who gives a riddle a day - solving those riddles reward you with all kinds of things, such as wall styles (which have no limit or at least didn’t on Test) and various items. There will be many items added as time goes on for past achievements and activities.

So no, a lot of gold is not required. WoW Token purchases are not required. You are making a forest out of a twig. But if you DO want to ensure you have enough gold, more than enough, take every character you have (which we know is at least 2 :stuck_out_tongue: ), change their professions to gathering professions (Herbalism DEFINITELY) and farm your butt off until the day before Housing is to launch. Put all those mats on the AH and watch the coins roll in.

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Make sure you send feedback on that. I honestly believe that the current pricing for items requiring various resources is based on what they think the average player should have, so they need feedback from as many as possible on what they DO have in order to make adjustments.

Correct. In fact, everything you wrote in that post is correct. But there is a certain portion of the population who must have EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW.

This is a valid concern and one I have also. I think I would prefer that rather than purchase the ITEM from those vendors, let me purchase plans to make it. NO ONE wants to go farm Apexis Crystals in WoD LOL.

Not entirely true, you can set both your yard and your house to allow visitors. So if you just want to run around various neighborhoods and looky-loo in people’s houses, you can! (If they have allowed it that is, if they haven’t you get a “You are trespassing…” message and yeeted back to the front gate :smiley: )

LoTRO? At least your stuff is safe in Escrow lol.

Generally speaking, a sub is not required although for games with optional subs, those with a sub may get better housing choices. WoW is (so far) the only game with housing that does NOT require weekly or monthly rent (and the price to buy is remarkably fair too!); when you miss enough rent payments, some games take the house back for other players who are actively playing. LoTRO is one, I think FFXIV:ARR is as well. EQII just won’t let you in until you pay again, but you don’t owe back rent (you don’t pay back rent in LoTRO either, you just go rent another house), as soon as you pay your weekly rent, you can go back in again. Your items are frozen inside for EQII; for LoTRO they get sent to a neighborhood “Escrow Agent”, which is essentially a limitless storage and they will hold it until you rent another home or forever if you choose not to, which is kinda nice because storage is really small in LoTRO and it costs real cash to increase it.

Feedback in-game please, so it gets directly to the devs. I think that’s a good idea too and I will also send feedback for it.

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This was my feeling as well. I shouldn’t have to pay for each clump of grass. Unless there is going to be a “ground cover: sparse, normal, cluttered” option.

If Blizzard reads this, this is my methodology.

  1. I go to a spot existing in game. In this case, the cottage in Dolanaar.

  2. I assess what assets are used to stage the environment.

  3. I determine what it would take to perfectly recreate that spot - exterior and interior.

The end result is - the current game would make it impossible to effectively recreate even a tiny, one room, subdivided, and that’s not even taking into account Blizzard does not have the Night Elf assets I am looking for. I can’t even replicate a humble cottage exterior in Val’Sharah, not without spending ridiculous amounts of gold to recreate the “unkempt nature” of the locale.

Items that are designed to be used in bulk should be purchasable in bulk. Exterior ground should have the same options for overarching design as interior walls, floors and ceilings. Items that are ubiquitous or trivial should be cheap, whereas large items, or rare items should be pricier.

As it is, logging 1 currency per tree is insane. It’s far too much of a time sink - and again: Blizzard HAD THE GAME PLAY. Whatever the mechanic was in WoD. That was fine. Why not use that? Why reinvent the wheel but make it worse than the system you already had? Logging for Housing is like someone knew wheels existed, but decided to re-engineer wheels from scratch but make them square.

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I think I know what game your talking about, and I’m in the same boat. There been such a huge sense of relief since letting my house get demo and never going back.

Didn’t much enjoy said game after their last xpack drop.

I mean, i think OP is overdramatic here. But you should consider, that you dont buy 1 of each item. You probably buy 4x of each Item.
This would come pretty close to 100k.

I personally find it also a bit too expensive and find it not cool to need to buy one single decor item every single time.
Especially with old currency.

I rather would pay a bit more, to get it to use forever or cheaper, since we have to buy multiple ones.
What gives me the creeps, this also needs to considered with Hearthsteel decor.

I would accept also half/half, for example, hard achievements decor should be used forever. Also from vendors of old content. Basic stuff can be a gold sink then, i dont mind.

This Forum is also for feedback.

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Something funny I did find in Silvermoon was the vendor which sells duplicates of the Epic edition decor. It costs 140k to buy a full set of duplicates for those (if you want them for both of your houses, for example). The pictures are 10k each and the other objects are 25k each.

The prices to a degree are definitely intended to deter overuse of certain objects, without a doubt.

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“I don’t engage with this kind of content and therefore I don’t want it discussed” is the worst kind of post one can make on the forums beyond just name calling people. I personally would hope less resources go into mythic raiding but you don’t see me going on the forums trying to nerf other people’s fun.

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Hey thanks for this information!

Agreed. I tested one recipe and it took me 20 minutes to get 15 wood to make 1 thing.

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Check my post above where I put some information on this. I bought, on average, 20ish of whatever I could find throughout the entire game world from every xpack and every zone I could think of that had Horde/Alliance xpack Hubs over 2 days. I went and bought, for example, about 50 of whatever different fences I could find to fence in my entire exterior. I found Elwin Forrest fencing, goblin, dwarf and undead and bought like I said, 50 of each to see what I liked best. It was the PTR, so I overspent on purpose.

Add other things that I did buy on average around 20 each over 2 days of reckless spending and I barely spent 150k. So no, even if you buy A LOT of everything you can find throughout the entire game over a 2 day bender, you won’t even remotely come close to 100k, let alone buying under 10 of everything. I ran around and purchased like that on purpose on the PTR just to see just how expensive Housing can potentially get for me and how much gold I would I need if I went nuts and spent like a madman. :wink:

There’s no way he bought “1 of everything” and spent 100k. Impossible. There’s no way he LOOKED for “everything”, let alone came close to even finding “everything”. But there’s others that also posted receipts above and didn’t come close to 100k.

It’s just silly over exaggerating, probably for attention, he wasn’t getting it so he used at least one sock puppet to back himself up because his untrue post gained zero traction BECAUSE everyone knows it’s simply lies and attempt at manipulation. That’s the problem. It’s not an issue for feedback and something that needs looking into how it’s proposed…..it’s deceit for deceits sake. And it’s that kind of thing that hurts the testing process, instead of helping it like testing like this is meant to do.

Have a great weekend!!!

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Maybe you should check out the videos on Assassin Creed Shadows Hideout. It is way advanced in customization types of buildings, rooms, layout, land, nature (trees, plants, flowers etc), especially the exterior grid and placing items. You buy a single type of tree, bush, rocks, pebbles, grass, flowers, etc… for a good amount of gold only ONE TIME!!! Then you can repeatedly place that item anywhere on the grid if you wanted. Seriously wish Blizz would look how that is done. If I wanted to place a fence around my plot, i have to buy it 20 times and try my best to figure out the plot edges, since we can not see it as in overhead view.

So yes, Blizz is very behind on creating this housing stuff compare to other games.

Just in case you or anyone is wanting to know what I mean here is a YouTube link.

Assassin’s Creed Shadows Hideout Guide Design

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Have you suggested the preview ability on these forums/via the in-game tool?

It’s a solid idea!

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