Now hear me out , i also play FF14 and WoW really needs to get on the housing bandwagon for starters it would generate more players and more subs if they followed a similar system. There is a lot of RP around the houses as clubs and cafe’s and such and having a demolish system in place for not being subbed would stop the end of old content wait for new content unsub.
4 Likes
They tried with garrisons, and failed so I doubt you’ll get what you wish for.
How much developer time and staff would it take to implement player housing and how many would use such feature, along with what would you like to NOt have in a future xpac. I’m guessing that they money counters are gonna say NO, no profit. In the end it all comes down to how much is it going to cost blizzard. They want to spend the least amount of money to maximise profit.
3 Likes
I love FFXIV but since you’re literally just describing their housing with cafes and clubs then it’d probably be for the best to just get your fill over there. That’s what I do. Even if they were to add it here, I believe it would be on the same level as a typical expansion feature.
And personally, I’d rather not give up what could be another expansion feature, or even a raid tier which is sometimes suggested, when I already have a pink designer house in a game that already has a system integrated.
Hold up. Someone posted a housing thread. Just need to check that…yep. First response is garrisons. Ok. You can return to your regularly scheduled programming now.
4 Likes
they failed b/c they didn’t make player houses, they failed b/c they wanted to make a ‘‘war center’’ with put all their effort into sending out ‘‘followers’’ we didn’t even know more often not while we couldn’t even fly to explore.
Now with tons of games getting/having working housing systems that have nothing to do with war tables I do imagine blizzard will pick it up at some point.
1 Like
No it doesn’t
No it wouldn’t
3 Likes
IIRC, Blizzard themselves even admitted they usually have set teams to do particular content. So adding X content wouldn’t cost a raid-tier regardless.
At best it’d cost them questing content or put a delay on those other things from pulling some human resources temporarily, to finalise some projects within – before ultimately going back to how things were.
Multiple interviews say that they’re working on it, but is going to take a while
Precisely, the Garrisons were utility not vanity, thus turned them into hubs.
Horrible design.
If you let your sub lapse in FF14 you lose your house and the lottery system to get a house in the first place is total BS.
Don’t copy them.
Copy Wildstar. That whole housing system was fantastic. I don’t think WoW could ever be as capable of supporting the level of customization Wildstar offered x,y,z axis adjustment, scale adjustment, skybox/weather customization, a copy/paste ability to make symmetry ez or create complicated designs, and an absolutely huge area to play with it all in.(in addition to the customization houses were actually quite functional) Man, was it crazy good. 11/10.
For WoW, a personal instance you can decorate with a lot of customization would be really cool! No idea if the game can even be made to do that though. We don’t have a lot of placeable items in the game atm and the ones we do have are simplistic. I feel like they would have to develop some way more advanced tech for WoW before they are able to provide a housing feature as players are currently imagining/wanting it to function.
With current tech the best I can imagine is animal crossing levels of customization. Bunch of items dumped on the floor in a grid. Maybe even swappable wall paper. 
And that’s obviously not going to excite players or satisfy their desire for a modern customizable housing system.
Players want from a modern housing system, at the very minimum:
-
The ability to free place things, not grid based.
-
The ability to detail while decorating. Place a table > place things on the table. Objects on top of objects. Including placing things on walls/ceilings.
-
The ability to control the X /Y facing direction of items with precision (not just some 90 degree snap rotation so the objects only have 4 directions they can face total).
-
A generous limit to # placeable items and variety of spaces to use (Players don’t want everyone to be assigned the same box/house shape with like 50 things total they can throw down on the floor so spaces all kinda end up feeling too same-ish)
1 Like
No it doesn’t. Ya’ll can still pretend WoW didn’t try this all you want but everything we learned from the garrisons and the following Class Order halls and Covenant Halls is that WoW really doesn’t need player housing, but rather just communal areas unregulated by players that folks frequently visit and enjoy being at.
I would love if you could direct one towards some of those interviews. Not because I don’t believe you, but because I’m pretty sure I already know what came from those “housing” projects. And no, I don’t actually mean the Class Order Halls or the Covenant Halls - we know those came about as a result of the Garrison, but I’m pretty sure I know of a new feature that probably came from one of these “housing” projects.
So in good faith, I would actually love to know of some of those interviews.
They failed because of the fact that it wasn’t player housing. I need to make a tshirt because I get weary of pointing out the obvious to people. Maybe they started out thinking that way but when they did away with the faction hubs as originally intended, they dumped everything from those into the garrisons and removed any real player choice of design and personal taste. I mean, they even originally were going to give people the option to choose the look of the garrison (as in, if you want it to look like a Sindorei structure, you could) but then even took that away.
Its a cosmetic feature. People who enjoy cosmetic features would use it. Transmog = cosmetic feature. I suspect a lot of people use that. Its my humble opinion tht if they put ph into the game and did it really well, there would be a huge influx of people who enjoy it. You underestimate the appeal.
1 Like
Ion Hazzikostas: “The dream of player housing is still alive and it’s something we want to do”
Ion Hazzikostas on Player Housing and Archaeology - News - Icy Veins (icy-veins.com)
1 Like
As long as they don’t follow the whole “There’s actually only limited housing plots for people to have” garbage that SE does? Yes. Absolutely agree. The limited plots is the worst design for player housing and no one will ever be able to convince me otherwise.
Yeah, it has to be instanced housing, as ESO does. There are multiple locations for such instances and you can still have people visit, but for a game of WoW’s size you couldn’t have real world plots. I can’t even imagine how you could do it unless they used some form of sharding which would probably wreck the game.
1 Like
Thank you, I had watched that interview when it came out (but forgot about it) and it largely confirms what I think is going to happen: Warbands. They needed a system in which individual characters that player’s have receive a system that use cross-character utility for different systems, it has to span multiple expansions, and has to mechanically have a benefit.
The answer is that most likely “Player housing” became “Warbands”. So we’ll just have to wait and see if they do something with that to indicate this is the case. Of course I could still be entirely wrong but I sincerely doubt that, with what we learned from Garrisons going into Legion and later Shadowlands, we will have housing in the way people imagine it.
So probably not “Player housing”, but perhaps “Warband camps”.
Exactly this. The ESO ones are actually pretty solid, so definitely on board with instanced housing that you can invite friends to. I don’t think people understand just how much of my life I would waste on housing, and decorating said house, and farming up all the things to put in said house.
2 Likes
There’s a lot of ERP going on in FF14 houses.
No, there’s a lot of people throwing on a twitch stream while their characters dance and no one says a word going on in FF14 houses.
Exactly. Nor do they realise the enormous potential for just about every aspect of the game. Every professions could provide items, so that even people who didnt want housing could benefit by providing stuff to people who did. Things could come from dungeons, delves, raids, hidden treasures, drops, just about anyway the designers could come up with. You could fish patterns up while fishing, create new crafts like Carpentry, make a fortune doing interior decoration for people, the list is limited only by imagination.
If they did it right - and it should only happen if they can - it could reshape the game.
1 Like
And only horny FF14 players watching the streams.