Leave and play other games… AKA Cant live without it and will go play other games because they need it. Thank you for agreeing.
Opting to choose to play something I enjoy more due to Add-ons being made unavailable all of a sudden and not being able to live without them are very different statements. I wont die if Add-ons go buh bye, but I would unsubscribe. I don’t need wow or Add-ons to live. If you do seek help.
Most of the addons i use are collection oreinted.
I don’t use weakauras or anything like that cause most classes have 1 big ability that means they are are doing their go and once you figure out what it is for every class you no longer need a weak aura.
MM-trueshot
bm-bestial wrath
ret-wings
sub-shadow dance/shadow blades
assass-kings bane
ele-ascendance
fury-avatar
mage-ice veins
evoker-dragon rage
monk-conduit of the celestials
Frost dk-pillar of frost
unholy dk-raise abomination
dh-essence break/real meta eyebeam.
Some of them don’t telegraph very well on the game but its still pretty ovbious. I think addons became prevelant around cata because the players unfortunately hit their cognitive limit around cata which was like 2 mechanics a minute and so addons were created to fill in the gap.
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You could easily have a WA now display your defensive icon for any defensive not on CD…
All of wow gameplay is a relatively simple if this, then that.
With enough time, you could essentially code WA to tell you what buttons to press.
But more to the point, why doesn’t the game do a better job of giving us an “air horn” out of the box? It is so important to know when those abilities are used and yet sometimes the only clue is a tiny additional buff icon alongside many other buff icons.
i think you are confusing weakauras, that addon itself just lets you make and run custom UI elements. that can be everything from spell and proc tracking to code that tells you what to press. that doesn’t mean Weakauras the addon is telling you what to press.
devs aren’t psychic.
Certainly it can if you set it up. I do it all the time.
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Neither are addons?
you are missing the point, you are using weakauras to do something, that doesn’t mean weakauras are doing the thing.
thats like blaming lego the company because you stepped on one.
No, you are missing the point.
Addons provide a crap ton of information and can act as an optimal decision making tool. Something that the game does a poor job of.
Why do you think no one plays without them?
show me a UI that is good for questing, raiding, pvp arena, pvp bgs, pvp rated bgs, pvp epic bgs, M+, pet battles, role playing, wpvp, and resource farming. it also has to show in detail every single classes’ resource system, and do it in such a way the satisfies the requirement of having a HUD for players who want a HUD but also not having a HUD for players who don’t want a HUD, it needs to be clean, simple, and easy to scan and understand for right brain thinkers, but also needs to be analytical and contain all the detailed information and timers for left brain thinkers. it needs to have all this information on screen all the time for data nerds while also being clean and minimalistic as to not overwhelm new players. oh, and it also needs to work for people who are colorblind, dyslexic, deaf, or may have some other disability. and it also needs to work on every monitor size and aspect ratio, as well as accross multiple monitors. and it needs to make sure to not put information in blind spots accress all monitors and all eye sizes and pupil distances, and it needs to already be perfect and accomplish every requirement out of the box so nobody ever desires to customize it.
good luck.
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Absolutely correct. And I am not a game dev, so it’s not for me to solve.
But PVP could use a simpler clearer system for showing the most important things another player does.
PvP is not approachable by any stretch without addons. Those of us commenting in this thread have been around forever. I am trying to help a friend get into PVP after them not playing since wrath and realize what an enormous hurdle it is to overcome.
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the solution is to let the player build their own custom UI. a high level pvpers UI isn’t something built overnight, its a step by step process where they learn about pieces of information they want to track, and this also shifts over time as things that are initially important become second nature and you learn about new important things to track.
the complaint that the UI should be good to go out of the box bases an assumption on the idea that the player is supposed to be fully ready to go from the start and that climbing the ladder is just a sorting procedure. this is incorrect, its a skill growth journey, figuring out addons and how to use them is part of that.
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My complaint if you want to call it that (I prefer feedback), is that the game can and should do a better job of this.
For instance: Divine shield, turtle, ice block dispersion, netherwalk, etc. all do essentially the same thing. Could the game do a better job of communicating this? I think so.
What about in BG’s? Who could possibly play without battleground enemies? How do you locate an efc without it?
There will always be room for people with more game knowledge to excel, but the game should be doing a better job of making PvP more approachable to more people. Addons pick up some of the slack, but those require quite a bit of game knowledge to set up and use effectively. Essentially making the gap between the knowledgeablev and new players even wider.
People forget that add-ons are necessary for some players.
I can’t see good anymore. If people think the default UI is already awful, it’s utterly unusable if you’ve got a vision impairment.
Many of my abilities are WA’d to make a sound effect when they come off CD because my action bar is a blurry mess most of the time. Ability icons are made much larger than the deault UI allows, or are made different so it contrasts enough to be visible.
LoSSA is probably the only thing I use that I’d consider borderline, but it’s just relaying information from the combat log into audio. Before I started using it, I just had a partner call certain abilities instead.
They took out these addons, I’d be playing another game simply because the visuals in WoW for both PvP and PvE are atrocious, and other games on the market have better telegraphs or more simplified gameplay. And I have been playing other games recently, and it’s becoming more and more frustrating when I come back to WoW.
People can whine about the air horns, but I’ve seen friends using them still hardstuck sub 1800, and people not using them playing at Hero range MMR. People should just do what suits them.
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I would say that depends on how seriously you want to take pvp. The more you want to push yourself, the more certain things become “necessary” because you know the other guy is using those things too.
And then there’s the dude just playing a few randoms after work, maybe some epics, and couldn’t care less about rated achievements/rewards. At that point, any addon he might be using is just for convenience.
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Well said. But even that guy would want to know if he is about to blow his CD’s into a 100% shield.
It pains me to watch/listen any time someone has the WAs and addons that make so much noise.
20 mandatory addons and rampant BOTs… And players that play like BOTs because of the addons… Lions tigers and bears…
Depends, some stuff is easily telegraphed just by playing.