Hot take: people asking for gdkp

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Are clearly the ones scamming people with half the raid there not to actually buy but to bid and drive up the prices. If they didnt succeed in suckering you this week they know exactly what youll pay for it next week. We all know the story…. That whisper that the previous bidder who won the item didn’t pay so you “won” it for your prior bid.. the item that was already auctioned and won being re-bid… gold checks prior to raid.. or about player of the same class asking you personally what youre there for and how much you’ll pay so “you won’t bid against eachother and run up the price needlessly.”

Why else would they want to pay for gear? They dont, they want you to pay them for yours.

Explain to me how its fair at all for you to pay 10000 gold for an item those scammers got for free, or someone else got for 1000. they sabotage non gdkp and ninja loot or kick people from the raid and post nonsense about how every gdkp raid is perfect and pugs cant kill all the bosses… Its because they join/form pugs as healers and intentionally wipe the raid by casting lower rank heals on their undergeared tank buddy while over healing the next guy while another posts total heal meters, while their dps buddy messes up mechanics and they all blame everyone else while mass disbanding after 1 wipe. Ain’t it weird how often a dozen people will instantly leave after 1 meaningless wipe that costs you two extra minutes?

They flood the channels with gdkp postings..and notice how they often mention its the “weekly so and so gdkp with 30 consecutive successful runs in a row” or something similar to utilize the grief they caused you in sabotaged pugs and poach all the raiders because they profit from doing so, making it vastly more difficult to pug and making non gdkp seem abnormal when its infact the right way and superior way to do things.. despite the slogan they constantly chirp and try to shove down your throats that gdkp is superior.. yeah, for them..

SR is the only fair option… no scamming.. even loot distribution, transparency, etc.

You can see the hatred in their heart at the idea of loot being distributed randomly.. the fact they won’t personally benefit from every drop infuriates them. They see you pugging as a threat to their scam profits.

And has anyone considered that things arent on the up and up? That its duped gold or bought gold used to bid on items and youll never have a fair raid again with people just trying to get you and plotting against you the whole time with a fake smile, unless you pug with a full group of people you know, because they are trying to sabotage pugs.

Oh and all that gold you get from participating in their pugs? They dont care.. you’ll be back next week and have to give it back to them all for a single drop because theyre keeping track of how much youve earned from their raids so they can take it back. The elusion that its more profitable to pug is a lie.. its only that way for the scammers.

Why else would they be so adament about using a gdkp system when SR works just fine? Because they cant scam u or profit disproportionately. Gdkp went away because od this nonsense.. SR never will.

If anyone saw the streamer thighgapy a couple nights ago that’s exactly the kinda people who im talking about.

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This doesn’t happen in the majority of gdkps, if you see this never run with them again or demand a public rebid, that’s shady.

You don’t have to bid 10000 lol, let the other person win it if it’s not worth that much to you. Most gdkps will only ask that you at least submit a bid on things that are upgrades, you are not expected to get into bidding wars with whales, though people do know who the whales are and will attempt to bid them up I am sure, but they are on the hook if the other bidder drops out so do at your own risk.

While I know the addons keep track of what you have earned, the price of items only goes down as the phase progresses. You should be able to buy the items you need, and afford consumes/mounts and all the things you need on your character without ending up on a leacher radar. The only time this is ever an issue is when you don’t even put out a small bid on things that are upgrades. Again, bidding wars are welcome but not an expectation.

It’s not. I’ve seen people attend that need nothing and SR things for their homies constantly. HR items for payouts as well. I would rather get a cut of their gold for their collusion.

For me it’s because it allowed me to never think twice about buying all consumables and raid on multiple toons without needing to worry about gold at all, outside of bidding what I can afford on items. I was always able to max consumes for all my gdkp characters and all characters I did guild raids with too and never had to manually farm it. This is why I like it.

AS referenced above bad apples are possible in every raid. Guilds that will only give gear to their main tanks girlfriend, or bought and paid for HR/SR runs. Due diligence in finding reputable runs is just as important in gdkps as it is for those.

This is all from my experience as an individual (non organizer) attending gdkps during tbc classic and wrath classic.

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an unhinged rant about GDKP based on ignorance is not a hot take :expressionless: we get that all the time here

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To the guy above me your opinion/comment is worth less than my waste.

To the prior poster talking about affording consumes due to gdkp.. can you explain how it didn’t end up costing you?

You saying you ran modern tier raids with a guild so you didn’t have to gdkp them? So you were using older raids to earn gold by charging/exploiting players without raid guilds cause you were too lazy to earn gold other ways?

Or did you deliberately sacrifice rolling in gear the first few raids to get gold?

Or are you saying that you just got lucky and won more than you bid? Cus if so it sounds like youre one of them or just got lucky and acting like its the norm.

And fair enough point about SRing for other people, that does happen, but I think we’d all agree on the problems being less significant and rampant than gdkp or one wouldn’t have been banned over the other.

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I almost never ran previous tier raids.

I raided on 6-10 characters per week depending on how much time I had. 2/3 with my guild and the rest in gdkp.

Yes I gained more gold than I spent. On most upgrades that were not very contested items I got for min bid, which was like 500 at the time. I joined gdkps with about 5000g I made from questing at the start of TBC and bid that 5000 on the biggest upgrades, but I never won at the start because I didn’t have the gold to be competitive on the good stuff.

Other than my original quest farm to get my foot in the door, you darn right lol. I spent ALL my time raiding.

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Ok so youd agree gdkp set you back a week or two at the beginning? And that to you was worth the free consumes it gave you?

That you were on the luckier side of things and benefitted financially when others may not have?

That you utilized a guild advantage you had to skirt the costs of gdkp while others who did not have access to a guild could not and it personally cost them more so?

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It’s a choice. You don’t need the items right away. I chose to spend less and receive my items later on. Parse lords absolutely want to be first to get their stuff, but I got my parsing fix in my guild.

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Right.. but SRers dont go around sabotaging the play of GDKPers through deceptive or manipulative tactics maliciously in order to personally benefit.. and to pretend gdkpers dont is just naivity. Gdkp was banned for that reason among others.

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What do you mean by sabotaging? Are you under some illusion that gdkp players are going to SR runs to cause them to fail? That’s full tin foil hat crap.

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Yeah go straight to calling me mentally ill and crazy for pointing out the logical facts that they’d benefit financially from doing so.. I knew you were one them.

You do realize there are places in the world where 20$ is a days or a week’s pay and they have internet and PCs? People have been shown to do MUCH MUCH worse for money or to survive.

Like I said youre either ignorant or one of them. But im leaning one of them cus youre trying to gaslight me as crazy and mentally ill for stating facts.

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Man you’re into a deep dark novel here, but this part is absolutely true.

GDKP support is inherently astroturfed (artificially propped up by currency incentives) because the people who benefit from GDKP are the same ones buying/selling gold as a commodity (RMT)

Are there GDKP enjoyers that never bought gold? Yea, but they’re surely the minority of that crowd.

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I’m just not buying into the conspiracy theory that there is some kind of coordinated effort to sabotage sr runs.

The people who came to anniversary that I played gdkps with are playing multiple SR runs per week and the runs are fine.

They are all boosting and selling gold. GDKP orgs don’t care enough to sabotage sr runs on some whim that blizz will make a change. AND even if this happens at all it’s most likely random people being trolls and not some coordinated effort.

It IS possible, but I don’t believe it is likely.

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Lol its not a “conspiracy theory”. But the fact you’ll ignore logic completely to jump to the conclusion without even considering it because “your runs were fine” while attacking me personally says everything there is to say… you should just go before you say anything else you’ll regret.

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IDK if that’s clearly the case, but it certainly seems to be the narrative that some people would like to push.

Some people like to say things like, “If you don’t have anything to hide, why do you care about privacy?” That’s a similar sentiment, I think, and it makes one wonder where it’s coming from.

In any case, do we really need another thread about GKDP? At this point, I feel like if anyone cares enough to vote with their playtime, then they are already doing so, and if they don’t care that might, then who cares?

It’s kind of a played out topic. There is zero new info, and your claim of this being a hot take falls flat, as there’s nothing even warm about it, nevermind hot.

:woman_shrugging:

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If yall didn’t feel threatened by the words i speak why are you here trying to shut me up?

The answer is pretty obvious.

Explain to me how more harm would come from SRs than GDKP instead of attacking me.

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Like posting accusations with literally 0 proof or evidence?

I already told you what you are saying is technically possible but there is zero evidence or likelyhood of it happening.

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Alright so you must be one of those godless types.. asking for the proof of god type stuff.

And what evidence could I possible have that would prove my point that others wouldn’t claim is fake and forged? Are you really that dumb?

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Threatened by what?

Do you feel that I’m trying to shut you up, because I stated:

I mean, maybe get some interesting material. But sure, you want to discuss your hot take on GDKP?

Some have suggested what you are suggesting before. Some have suggested that those against GDKP are the gold sellers. I haven’t really seen anything in the way of compelling evidence to strongly support any such claims either way, but speculative claims can definitely be interesting to some.

Considering that GDKP in a topic does tend to garnish a fair deal of attention, perhaps it is still a hot acronym, and serves as decent click-bait, at least on these forums.

While personally, I think it’s a fine system, having it supported or banned is not a major consideration for my own playtime.

:woman_shrugging:

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No, I use my eyes and logic to deduce what is actually happening.

If there was a massive coordinated sabotage going on, it would have a much larger impact on SR/HR runs. But from what I can tell, 95%+ of the runs are doing just fine, so this is a nothingburger. Most likely unintentional bad runs, or the one off troll group.

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Yeah there arent any major current sabotage issues because gdkp is banned… duh no wonder