Hot take, I HATE Death and Decay on Frost DK

I want to use Frost Scythe so bad! It’s such a sick ability. I hate playing around Death and Decay. It makes our already not mobile class even more locked into not moving. It just sucks, year after year I complain about this but nobody else seems to mind DnD.

I want a new AOE option. Can we please make Frosty scythe good. Maybe make it a runic power spender instead. If you keep DnD in the tree, make it follow us around like an aura so we don’t have to lay it down and stand in it. It’s just not fun and I want something new this expansion.

I feel like frost DK is so locked into one type of play style and choosing any talents outside of that is just too detrimental to our damage.

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It was brought up by almost everyone during beta feedback. There have been countless posts in here complaining about it and offering ways to fix it. The change in TWW to it makes it easier but does not make it fun.

They fixed frostscythe.
It just needs to be tuned properly.
Prepatch is always a mess tuning wise.

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Feels like we got as much as current DK class design is willing to budge on DnD cleave. I’m not satisfied with it, but it is what it is.

Everything else is great, and I’m looking forward to playing some frosty boy this xpac.

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Yes, enjoy your improved, but not fixed, D&D aura.

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Then use it.

Must not read the forums then. There is nothing wrong with DnD mechanically, just a bunch of people that dont know how to use it well playing with bad tanks that dont know the basics of the role.

It was changed to be good for this expansion… too bad its not tuned and they just keep buffing Obliterate.

Why would anyone suggest this or be on board with it? There is already GA and Shattered Frost. So RP would have 3 different ways to spend runic power if Frostscythe was runic power based in aoe and only 1 for Runes where you would still DnD cleave and you would still complain about it.

Frostscythe isnt even designed that well, it doesnt interact with anything except gets a lower CD with KM proc consumption, its just a wannabe Wake of Ashes without any of the interaction. Just delete the thing already so everyone can stop wasting time on this trap of a talent and trying to think of ways to make it worth a button press. It died when KM rank 2 came into the game and its never going to be good without doing giga damage like I said years ago.

From what I’ve seen, most people do not like being confined to the small circle of DnD, especially non-tanks.

New to the forums so I apologize if my formatting is messy

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This situation with DnD resemble the one relating to Rune of Power for mages.

Mages asked for years to have this talent removed to improve mobility without Blizz listening to them…

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Yeah, the oh so small circle of DnD that you could run laps in.

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I hate the use of Death and Decay as well, and wish we could go back to it not being used at all… or some sort of aura within a proximity of the caster instead. OR at least have a viable option that is competitive that doesn’t require you to stay stationary

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Should be tied to Remorseless Winter imo

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Should be tied to POF imo.

Tying it to remorseless winter would result in you having to hold it a bit before every POF and would make RW extension top priority in every aoe situation. Would also be significantly better for BOS.

that certainly sounds better

Anything that gives me more Haste is great, we are still Death Knights afterall, not just Frost Liches.

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