Horde want to full on turtle AV

1 less Alliance queueing into it

Even if every Alliance player runs into Galv Horde has the advantage defending so Alliance wipe and Horde move up. As far as I can tell the ONLY way to play AV now is for Alliance to defend Balinda while Horde defend Galv, no thank you

edit: it should not be this hard to get a lvl60 PvP trinket

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Not surprised they want to farm you for as long as possible.

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Honor from kills is the best source of honor atm for horde…

Half of AVs the horde literally try NOT to kill vann or all the towers, so we can farm you down on kills.

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Its the best Honor.

The system is broken.

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Example #371716 of an Alliance player being terrible at PvP and complaining about it on the forums.

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Were you expecting a free run to Drek…?

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lmfao I love your name and avatar.

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LOL Horde turtling AV is one of the primary reasons alliance quit queuing and now horde have 2 hour queues.

I tried to tell horde this for the last week but once again, they just want to whine about queue times and not embrace solutions.

Reap what you sow buddy.

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In Vanilla WoW Horde just had to turtle at FWGY and the game would never end. It has always been the 100% win condition for the Horde.

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“Go softer on us in AV otherwise we won’t queue anymore” - Alliance :clown_face:

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In vanilla I was Alliance on a small/medium server. I remember two times the Alliance won AV in the entire time I played on that server, which was a couple years. Both times there was a big post about it on the realm forum. Horde ALWAYS won.

Factually true.

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Pvp in a bg? I have no problem with that

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Horde have to wait for one whole hour or more for AV. Consequently, Horde want to win the game, since it means three marks of honor instead of just one.

Alliance has had the base race advantage while Horde tends to win turtles. This is nothing new.

Longer Horde queue times have been a thing since BGs were release. As early as day one of BGs, even during the new content rush when the meta was just to end games in five minutes whether you win or lose, Horde had five minute queues while Alliance had instant queues. People saying “go easy on us or we’ll stop queueing” are clowns, it’s always been this way.

an alliance complaining about Turtling? GTFO yall only turtle so suck it up buttercup

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Welcome to TBC AV. This is how it was done correctly back in the day too.

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Ironically this can also be used for every other bg

I thought AV was horde biased because of the cave but it’s relocated now. Guess you gotta pvp to win the game now.

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Enjoy your hour+ queues. :joy:

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Horde started to turtle when the ques got super long,
When av first came out and the ques were fast the games were pretty short.

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