I quit a few years ago because of the massive advantage horde have in bgs and pvp in general. I come back and it seems like nothing changed. Alliance zones are filled with horde non-stop killing quest givers in pretty much every zone making it hard to level. When I’m out and about in the game I rarely see another Alliance player. It’s all horde. Pretty much all the top pvp grps are horde. According to stats on top pvp and top pve rated content around 80% of that part of the playerbase is horde.
There are some fixes Blizzard can implement that don’t involve giving cannon fodder bonuses-
-The BG’s favor the horde and pretty much always have
-In AB the blacksmith, the central base and most strategic location is closer and easier to get to for horde players.
-In AV for years the Alliance lady could be killed with just 3 horde players. She was paper. It took about 20 to kill the horde guy. He did massively more dmg than the Alliance lady.
-In Mines the lava cart is slightly closer to the horde. It’s the quickest one to cap giving an advantage. It will always take several more seconds for Alliance to get there than the horde.
Beyond that some other advantages-
-Racials have favored horde, when stuns and silences are king and horde have the stuns and silences----
-Lore and enthusiasm have been favoring the horde. I remember when they did that chopper build. I’m not sure why they even had the alliance bike in there, they barely showed it, and when the time came for them to choose the winner almost every vote was horde. It was laughable. Same thing when they shout for the horde at Blizzcon and stuff. You can tell horde is where their heart is.
The fixes-
-Change the battlegrounds to make it even.
-Get someone that loves the alliance to be a spokesperson for them.
-Change the racials to be equitable or just ban them in pvp.
It wont fix anything overnight, but hopefully the player base with those changes can overtime become more evenly distributed.
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The suspense is killing me already!
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Well I finished it, so enjoy.
Hey I want to be a part of this conversation, but I’m not sure how to contribute.
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The only map I can agree with that favors Horde would be AV. The defense choke point at IBT is just too good. The hill above the hut at our keep, is a much better choke point than the bridge at Alliance base (imo) Especially since you can sneak behind South Bunker and get into their base.
As for AB, both factions get there in enough time. It seems like it favors Horde because you don’t have water to go through or around, but anytime I have played on my Alliance toon in AB, I was there roughly the same time as Horde.
Also yes, there are more Horde in wpvp, hence the 30% warmode bonus buff to Alliance who turn it on. But, not every shard is Horde favored.
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lol I don’t think you understand how forums work.
This used to be the case. They now delay lava cart until the match begins because of it’s distance. Mid cart actually caps first (the first time anyway)
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So, you’re making recommendations based on what you experienced three years ago? Horde/Alliance disparity didn’t even come about until Legion. Did you even play that expat?
I’m just not sure your opinions on racials (Alliance are now better overall), the “Alliance Lady” in AV (there have been really significant changes to AV in the last year), and the fan voting years ago for the motorcycles (irrelevant), really have much bearing at all on the game today.
Yes, Horde do have a significant advantage in overall PVP particuparionbut it’s not for any of the reasons you list other than maybe “enthusiasm” which is totally subjective.
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Blizzard flat out stated that Blacksmith is closer to the horde when the map came out. You can use rulers in your favorite art editor if you don’t believe me. Even with water walking horde will still get to the blacksmith before alliance.
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The fixes-
-Change the battlegrounds to make it even:- They are even already.
-Get someone that loves the alliance to be a spokesperson for them:- Ok
-Change the racials to be equitable or just ban them in pvp:- Alliance racials are better for PvP.
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And Alliance get to Hangar first in IoC. Neither are enough time to actually cap though. It is why I said “roughly” the same time
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Why is there an enthusiasm gap? There are reasons.
Horde/Alliance disparity did not come about during Legion. Horde have had a win advantage in BG’s since burning crusade. And these things take years to fix so things that happened years ago certainly do matter.
Overall pvp winrate is horde favored as well. It’s not just participation.
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Didn’t Alliance win most of BG’s in WoD … ?
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It doesn’t matter if it’s delayed. Lets say there is a big fight for the lava cart. Horde will always be able to get to the fight first due to it being closer to their side.
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Alliance just have a bad stigma surrounding the faction, which isn’t true and posts like this don’t help to fix that stigma. The game is for the most part balanced besides maybe a few classes (which both faction would have access too.) and maybe the IBT choke point in AV.
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You just came back. How do you know about the winrate?
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And alliance gun ship can defend the hanger flag …while horde cannot do that
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And mid cart is closer to Alliance. Lava cart is delayed and caps after mid because of that, only speaking of the first caps.
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Then how come every sight for pvp says go horde for racials and almost all top pvpers are horde? Look it up before you comment, cause your just wrong here.
As for the bg’s being even they aren’t. Please explain how I am wrong on this, rather than just stating. Blizzard has flat out stated Blacksmith the best location in AB is closer to the horde. Minecart in mines is closer to the horde. It’s also the most important cart.
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