Horde really like to make revisionist history. You are bad, get over it

Except cartoonish mustache-twirling evil is bad writing, and worse yet, totally immersion-breaking.

The Horde presented at the start of WoW, a mix of noble savages and those with questionable ends-justifying-means motives, is not the same as the Horde of BFA.

I have characters on both sides of the fence, so I speak from the perspective of good/bad storytelling and not chest-thumping red vs blue.

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When you want to take the story of both my characters and your own is the very hallmark of selfishness.

You dont see me asking to have the privilege of questing with Voljin or participate in your rebel questlines.
Those are yours.
Now let me have something of my own.

As for your complicity.
If you participated in Siege of Lordaeron and Any warfront or warcampaign then you and any character associated to it as guilty as Sylvanas.

I’ve been one of the peoples who’ve been advocating the end of splitting story between Alliance and Horde versions. I’m hoping/praying that Shadowlands has as little of it as possible. Best of all would be none whatsoever.

Seems fair to me that all people have the same experience. You’re the one who seemingly doesn’t want to share.

If you don’t want to participate with Vol’jin then that’s your business. It wouldn’t break my feelings at all if you did.

That’s your opinion. You’re not the judge and jury on the matter so it matters little.

The only ones who can stop post-Sylvanas Horde from being a better organization is Blizzard. I guess we’ll see where they take it.

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Typical.

The Horde player gets his unique and extra content and when its my turn suddenly its going to far.

As for your second point.
You kind of proved my point that Blizzard wrote the Horde story correctly.
I mean of you think defending Sylvanas, doing her bidding and participating in her Warfronts does not make you just as guilty as she is then I question your morality.
The word complicit comes to my mind.

The difference between us is that I never asked for our content to be made exclusive and would have been happy to share it. Then again you don’t care about helping Vol’jin so it doesn’t matter.

Second, though I would be sad to see yet another expansion have segregated content, if they did make Tyrande’s quests Alliance exclusive then it would hardly be world ending. It’s easy enough to get on an Alliance alt and run it.

Perhaps but you’re still not getting the revenge you think you deserve and the Horde’s still going to continue on making itself better without Sylvanas.

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Sounds like a mature response from a well-adjusted individual looking to convince others of the legitimacy their stance.

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Exactly.
World of Hordecraft.

Alliance will never get their due and you will eventually get whatever you want.
You know the more I talk with Horde players the more I realize they are worse than Blizzard to deal with.

Nothing but “screw you I got mine” attitude.

You will take your redemption and you will like it!

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If I got what I want then we would never see another faction war again. Blizzard clearly has no frickin’ clue how to do it correctly.

If they DO though, I want to see Alliance stumble down the moral sludge slope for a change and engage in some actual villainy.

That’ll never happen though because Blizzard is squeamish and gutless about even tickling the Alliance with the villain bat.

What you ask for is completely absurd though. Basically you want to punish half the game’s playerbase for things they didn’t have choice in.

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I got pretty punished this expansion for your enjoyment.
I think its fair to ask that you also give a little for once.

Maybe someday you will get that chance to experience some Alliance attacks and razing of Horde things and take part in some genocide.

When the Alliance character who was heading that effort gets killed, defeated, shamed, and wrote off as a villain of the Warcraft story would you accept that or be back here raging again?

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Like I said before.
If BFA was reversed and Andiun was my Sylvanas?

I would say it is the greatest expansion hands down.

At least we can agree that a morally bankrupt Alliance would make things much more interesting. :slight_smile:

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Thats the beauty of it.
With all the things Horde has done I have zero reservations about burning Horde cities with everyone while inside.

Thanks to Blizzard’s favortism.
So your “evil alliance” expansion would be exactly what I wanted. But you got it instead. Lucky guy.

I know you’re trolling, but when I made a Horde character in 2008, I thought I was going to be proving to a hostile and judgmental world that people are not their pasts, that we were deserving of life and finding our own place in Azeroth.

I got the “hostile and judgmental” part right.

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As someone who has been holding out hope since Cata for this to happen, my personal advice is to not hold your breath.

Blizzard has proven they’re only capable of writing out the same story on repeat, and unfortunately the opening chapter of that story is the Horde committing unspeakable acts for foolish reasons. Chapter two is the Alliance behaving like they’ve never fought the Horde before.

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I hope you’re not so delusional enough to see the total hypocrisy of your vengeance.

I don’t know what you mean.

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The Horde murdered innocent people and that is wrong - so your resolve is to murder innocents in reprisal because that is somehow right?

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You seem to be under the impression that I think anyone in the Horde falls into the “innocent” category.

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