Horde PvPers are having the best time since TBCC started

horde vs ally = 50/50 win rate facts prove this. Idk where people get these false stats

Alliance effectively cannot play the game on pvp servers

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That doesn’t matter to them. They want to play world of quecraft.

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EXACTLY.

And alliance don’t lose anything they still get instant queues. Their experience doesn’t change one single bit.

Bahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa…

I can picture the Blizzard team looking at the forums now.
Brian (horde toon: alliancelol):“Wow look at the great reaction on the forums … everyone is loving it”
Jill (horde toon: kekwally): “Yeah seriously we are gonna get more subs … and I am loving the insta queues on my warrior!”
Work experience kid (horde toon: theymademe): “There are some not so positive comments from the alliance”
Jill (horde toon: kekwally): rofl “Alliance ? When have they ever counted in this game?”

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We started queing as a premade, the horde cried about that as well

If horde don’t que into pugs they can stomp because horde has all the hardcore PVPers, they’ll whine on the forums

What about the Alliance heavy PvP servers:
Benediction
Grobbulus
Earthshaker
Netherwind
Zandalar Tribe
Thunderfury
Bloodfang
Heartstriker
Heartseeker
Incendius
Deviate Delight
Felstrike
Arcanite Reaper

But arguing with someone that thought merc mode came in Cata is kind of pointless. There’s already an example that they don’t know what they’re talking about and will only seek to dig deeper into their trench desperately.

On a side note: Where is the 50/50 number coming from for H:A win ratios? Just curious. Share.

Another reason you have long ques is because alliance aren’t bothering to que for a loss at these honor rates.

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I bet their experience on PVP realms will actually get better because now the horde will be too busy killing itself in BGs instead of killing them out in the world. On PVP realms, horde have to scour outlands and murder every alliance in sight during queue times to pad the numbers. Now they can just stay in BGs.

I’m not a fan at all. I hate everything about it. I may quit PVP for good or only play on my alliance and afk out of any ally vs ally games. That’s after 260k+ kills in Classic.

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Lol…? Grow up dude…

Being off by an expansion doesn’t change the motivation around the change. Only reason you are focusing on that is because you can’t counter the point I made.

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The change is fine for BG queues but it still does not really address the issue of faction balance on pvp servers.

Atm on most (not all) pvp servers 1 side has a significant advantage meaning that world content is largely controlled by that faction (outside the random geared 70 on the smaller faction killing solo players here and there and flying off to hide).

This is going to lead to issues in wrath with wintergrasp in particular as 1 faction will largely control access to the raid instances during prime time meaning the lesser faction will need to try and win the instance with multiple raid groups and the lag that will cause.

That is my biggest concern with the faction imbalance as its going to encourage people to only play the stronger faction and if your the weaker one take a paid transfer to one where you have the advantage.

And here you are …

why so salty lol

https://ironforge.pro/population/tbc/?realm=PvP-PvP%20RP

Since you listed a low 50% ratio as “heavy,” we’ll now do horde.

Whitemane
Faerlina
Sulfuras
Arugal
Herod
Fairbanks
Earthfury
Bigglesworth
Yojamba
Kromcrush
Skeram
Blameux
Rattlegore
Kirtonos
Smolderweb
Kurinaxx
Loatheb

For a total of 60/40 in favor of Horde. But if you want to talk actual “domination” which would be a 10% or more faction imbalance. And that is what SHOULD be looked it in that regard, then we get:

Horde dominates 16 realms in pvp and rp-pvp.
Alliance dominates 6

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Lol. your assumption based arguments are nice. You can clearly see a faction imbalance based on the meta for racials. Every expansion it changes.

That has been my point. Who are you arguing with?

The alliance started to plummet after they crapped on EMFH.

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Cool, looks like Alliance has PvP servers they can “Play the game” on even though it is less than horde. 16/6

Pre HvH BG’s, can you do me a favor and list the PvP servers where horde doesn’t have 1.5 hour queues and are able to play the game?

IDK I’ve been having a horrible time. Sure ques are instant but I think my win rate is like 1:10 now against all the premades.

My winrate before this was worse with all the Alliance premades, except I had to wait 1.5 hours to lose to a premade.