Horde new AV exploit?

You’re trying to present this like it shakes out 50/50. It doesn’t. Not only is your assertion false because those 15 people can be easily flanked, games just don’t go that way. Even FWK, which is a strong defensive position, can’t be held by that few people against a full team offense, unless they’re really bad.

One of my favourite strategies in AV is to just mount up and crash the front-lines. Sure, I die, but at least 10 Horde turn around and chase me, which lets my team move up. I can be even more impactful if I happen to have bubble up.

Your entire position here is to try to undermine the power of the Horde scorched earth strategy, which is proven successful. You don’t see a lot of Alliance winning games because they turtled 15 players on the bridge. I’m not going to say it never happens but it’s pretty dang unlikely.

The domination is yours if you want to take them, but as of yet you don’t seem inclined to try.

Yea, the reason they were so long was because Horde owned Alliance in AV so bad they just didn’t queue. I went through my exalted grind shortly after the premade change and it was still like that. Fast queues and a near guaranteed loss if you were Alliance, slow queues and a near guaranteed win if you were Horde.

I don’t know if you’re just predisposed not to remember the wins but let me tell you, being on the receiving end of an AV exalted grind’s worth of scorched earth games is most definitely memorable.

Again if this was all so true then premade or not alliance wouldnt have been able to win sub 7 minutes when the gates opened. They proved that skill and coordination beat any “horde map advantage”

Already answered this

You’re arguing that there’s no Horde advantage in AV because Alliance premades could be Horde pugs.

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I think we’ve reached the end of this interaction. It’s no skin off my back if Horde wanna give up control in AV. Good luck in there!

Dear Alliance,

Horde is killing Vann every match and also getting more honor now because they’re killing LT’s. I don’t know what comms are like on their end, but I don’t think that they’re losing their minds and mass reporting over people getting the extra honor. Compare this to how if 3 or 4 of us decide to pvp in mid, everyone loses their minds. Also, the rest of you aren’t even killing every LT. There is no excuse for this incompetence when Horde is able to kill Vann without their whole team. You no longer have logic on your side when you start to cry about pvp’ers ruining your HPH. The map layout is not a crutch for you to rest on with your laziness anymore. It is absolutely possible to kill every LT in 6 minutes. You cannot use the stragglers in mid as an excuse. Wake up, and start playing again.

Sincerely,
Everyone who hasn’t gone braindead and/or traded their dignity for convenience

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We were doing this back in 2005 on ventrilo.

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i played av back then but i was on a low pop pvp server so i never saw this in 2005. I saw 3+ hour av turtles.

why wont they just give us the version with the caves fixed ??? total nonsense, plus Alliance gets a bit more honor at the end of the game usually but horde make that up with marks, plus it takes Alliance 2 times as long to get max rep.

Cave fix eta is 8-10 months (TBC)