After reading the “95% AB Horde winrate” post… you guys thought we meant were more skilled as players? First off we don’t mean skilled, we mean were better at AV.
The difference being were better because we had multiple weeks to figure things out strategically and working together in general, and when premades got cancelled we knew it was going to be EZ mode because for Allies it’s almost as if AV was a “new” BG to them. Absolutely no idea what to do. It’s been catchup ever since.
I thought this was clear this whole time but apparently not.
That side Allies on West put up a good fight these days. Still losing (at least for my games), but watching you guys TRY new things is interesting. You guys can even pull off the premade strategy of grouping by SHB then all rushing to IBGY, which was impossible for you guys to coordinate as a pug just a week ago, tho it still needs a little work. I want to recommend you guys split up a bit tho and have both O and D at the same time because as far as I can ever tell it’s one or the other, and that will not work.
Once we take SPGY, just run from cave to south but have 15 allies in Dun Baldar for defense. If IWB is blocked, go up lumbermill and jump down on the horde all at once (mages im lookin at you especially) then continue south.
Once horde towers are under attack the horde will start to panic (we will not get the bonus honor unless we FULLY own the node) and we’ll be recalling, which makes it even easier to defend your base.
Also things like when horde has gotten SHGY, you need to send players into IWB and attack with range with melee on the ground. I rarely see that tower used to your advantage.
It’s just somerhing they can latch onto and attack because your message is quite logical. They just won’t accept that because it means they have responsibility in their win rate.
Much easier to blame anything else besides what it really is: effort, teamwork, and adjusting as the game plays out.
Except you are hella delusional if you don’t think that map location in this instance actually does affect win rates. You both can’t possibly be this daft…
WSG and AB have balanced win rates. When the map is factored out, the factions are equally skilled. IBGY is your crutch, and you all flock to it, hence your ridiculous queue times in AV compared to other maps. You could have 20-min AB queue times, but instead of having a chance of actually losing, you’d rather wait for 2 hours for a guaranteed map-assisted victory in AV.
And to think Alliance are accused of avoiding PVP.
I read it, your explanation was just garbage and off the mark.
I’ll say it again, you are not fooling a single soul. There are only a handful of people here (myself included) insane enough to continue arguing this point with you. Everyone else has already quit the BG never to return because of how bad the map is and they will never engage with your denial of this fact.
I imagine you think you’re fighting for the soul of AV, but you lost months ago. You’re not going to convince anyone to return to the BG, because we all know why it’s broken and you’re in denial.
Horde didn’t adapt. They zug zug sh, take all gys, send 20+ back to recap if alliance have the audacity to cap a tower or gy and all of this while keeping alliance pinned behind iwb. All horde have to do is cap SHGY and they effectively shut down alliance offense. It shouldn’t be that easy but it is.
Horde need to stop deluding themselves that they somehow overcame the odds to win on a map that the odds are so heavily stacked in their favor.
Another Horde player arguing with the few souls left who are insane enough to engage in conversation over AV anymore, while literally everyone else has moved on to other BGs that are actually balanced.
AV is a dead horse. The map drastically favors Horde in the modern meta. Alliance have no counter to IBGY except to skip it and face Drek with a Warmaster up. Everyone knows this, including the Horde players who like to pretend they are superior (until they step foot into any other BG). Alliance have quietly (minus the few of us here in the forums) boycotted AV and Horde will continue to have hours-long queues no matter how many denial threads like they make.
im not fighting for AVs soul. i saw a post that made it clear you guys think weve meant were more skilled as players so im attempting to fix that, and gave some tips.