Horde morale is low

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Small writers can write what they want, but as soon as a higher up wants to push a narrative, lore is tossed out the window. It’s why some people are secretly glad Dwarves have mostly stayed out of the spotlight - the lore they get in the background is really solid, but will be retconned to hell if or when the main writers want to do something “really cool” with them.

Incidentally, this is why I think the Steamwheedle Cartel is more interesting that the Bilgewater.

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Time to send in the space ducks to clear up this mess

Edit: Vid starts at 0:08

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i thought the dreadlord jaina thing started cause they made a Dreadlord Jaina skin in HoTS

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Dreadlord Jaina goes back much further.

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The dreadlord Jaina skin was in response to the dreadlord Jaina meme. The idea had already existed for years at that point - basically ever since Jaina stopped liking the Horde, to my knowledge.

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oh wow Blizz big yikes

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Somehow I thought it was even older than that, but I can’t remember now what gave me that impression.

Also I just wanted to ask what is eating your face?

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Whenever players start acting obnoxious, sexist, or racist, you can count on Blizzard to be there.

So they can help.

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I forgot to mog this helm back to my eyepatch last night and I found it too funny to change it.

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Bloody hell… and I actually like the Dreadlord Jaina skin. I knew here was a meme but I hadn’t realized how bad people were getting about all that. I guess that serves me right for hoping people for the most part could be better, huh? :confused:

Another reason I’m sick and tired of the stupid Blizzard keeps pulling. It really does feel like they’re deliberately trying to tear the community into pieces, sometimes.

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I’m finally looking at this on my computer, instead of my phone. On my phone, your face is merely a featureless darkness, surrounded by fangs. On my computer, it’s a darkness with an indistinct face inside, watching the world impassively, surrounded by fangs. I don’t know which is more terrifying.

All I can guess is that they find exploiting tribalism, and encouraging said tribalism to become more entrenched and aggressive, to be an acceptable source of revenue. Some people cement their feeling of belonging somewhere by defining and “opposing” those who don’t. Perhaps they’ll remain more engaged with a product that provides a no-consequences context in which to indulge in that.

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Dreadlord Jaina had been around as response to her behavior in Purge of Dalaran. You should take anyone’s opinion on that with a grain of salt because it was a very divisive event (which, incidentally, is why Blizzard considers it “good writing”). It also portrayed two stories that didn’t really mesh that well together. Even Nobbel’s video on it omits stuff that happens in-game.

The full story is a lot more complicated than some people would want you to believe. And you won’t find that full story in-game, because a lot of the gaps in the story got released over Twitter a year or so later. Which, of course, complicates matters, because certain events were never shown in-game, only mentioned over Twitter, but they explain why
certain NPCs behaved the way they did.

But even if you accept the Twitter account as fully canon, it’s still an unsatisfying story because there’s a Blood Elf traitor out there who purposely helped orchestrate the whole thing and has faced zero consequences for it, and the events Jaina was supposed to be reacting to explicitly never happened in-game.

If you want to know why “BfA has bad writing”, it’s because they’re trying to recreate Purge of Dalaran’s writing style:
Tell an incomplete story, have the two sides contradict each other, then release the actual story later. Oh, and things won’t ever be fully resolved later on.

Blizzard liked Purge of Dalaran because it divided the community. Which, personally, I think is the most important take away from it.

Anyway… all that said, I don’t think Dreadlord Jaina really took off as a more serious theory until Legion, since Jaina disappeared before meeting the Demon Hunters and basically everyone was a demon in disguise during Legion.

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The fact that they regularly admit that they think this is funny is disgusting.

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Purge of Dalaran is probably my least favorite event in-game, because it was the first time Blizzard really wrote an intentionally incomplete / contradicting narrative.

Rant/Rave:
Cataclysm writing has a lot of problems, but I honestly love questing through some of the zones regardless because they did something clever that I think most people might’ve missed or not really consciously noted.
They made it so that the stories were coherent, and you would get more of a full story by playing both factions. There are events in one Horde zone that will explain what is happening later in an Alliance zone, and vice versa. I think that’s genuinely good writing if you can make playing both factions feel rewarding like that.

They don’t really do that as much any more, and when they do, it’s usually a lot more pronounced, and not subtle.

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Pre-freaking-cisely…

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It would be disgusting all by itself, but the more the real world suffers from mutually-vitriolic divisions in other areas, the more I wonder whether the devs don’t care, don’t take that seriously, or don’t see that there’s any relation between the two.

I’m not saying that division in a game community = division on real-world issues. The first doesn’t directly exacerbate the second. But while I’m relatively uneducated in psychology, I can’t imagine that promoting factionalism in one area of someone’s life has no effect on their general mindset.

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it has a colour palette that vaguely reminds me of sailor jupiter so it’s all good

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I saw the potential of storytelling post Purge, but the fact that they punted it all straight after MoP, and having to actively work with one of the perpetrators in Vereesa in Legion, basically killed all potential it had.

Let it be known I still hate Vereesa with an undying passion, and hope she gets eaten by fish people in the immediate future.

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I just realized something. If Horde morale is low, and Alliance morale unchanged…

Does that mean Alliance get like a +2 or +3 on damage rolls? Cause that ain’t good!

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Warmode bonus :stuck_out_tongue:

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