The racials are an incredible, unbelievable, absolutely ridiculous advantage. Plus shamans are insane for group pvp. Windfury, totems, off heals, mix of spellpower/ranged and physical/melee damage, etc. They offer much more in a group setting than paladins. It’s no surprise horde win 80-90% of bg’s and always have.
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Wow this is new and exciting, we never knew.
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Shamans used to be the offensive support while paladins were defensive support.
Now shamans get 30% stam, 10% Dr, 6% crit immune from one rune LOLOLOL
who comes up with this stuff?
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lucky for you every SoD realm is skewed toward alliance and so horde character creation should never be locked!
strength, and honor!
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Stoneform bis
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As it is at level 25 I’d say Alliance probably have the advantage in group pvp right now. Pally’s are way better than Shamans right now. And Orc racials aren’t a huge deal right now since rogues don’t have Cheap Shot/Kidney.
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Yeah we do…
Don’t forget it alliance.
Shaman are only viable as tanks and youre whining lol
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horde has a serious advantage in wsg, especially phase 1. some of the bis alliance jumps require cheetah whereas horde has all their jumps. Also they decided to patch alliance jumps onto leaf/zerker hut so you cant use that. Horde has four jumps up their cliff where alliance has two. Also the horde tunnel is just better for jumps in general. This makes for a situation where one horde druid that knows the jumps can kite infinitely abusing their tunnel, where alliance just doesnt have that ability.
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Nah pally’s are too good right now in group pvp.
yep, this is your punishment for stacking the usual op faction
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Next phase is when Shamans might become a problem. I think Shamans deserve some time to be OP though.
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shamans are already holy paladins on crack right now
edit: and holy paladins are holy paladins with half the healing power required to be relevant right now lol.
10 seconds of immunity while casting free heals, dispels, and freedoms every 5 minutes is hardly something to scoff at.
See at the nodes in AB, I guess.
Anecdotally of course, whenever I’ve taken note of my numbers of wins/losses on either faction, it seems to continuously converge towards 50:50 the more games I play…
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when do shaman get 3 life bars , a bis mace that is only rivaled by an epic 2hnder , weapon skill to all maces and swords(humans), freedom, bubbles that you can cast on yourself and others, blessings that if you cast them on 2 people they do more than the totem does for 5, auras, really good damage (especially considering ele and enh suck bootie) , heals, ect ect.
dont discount all alliance racials as if they arent at least halfway decent. meld + hunter or druid , escape artist, stoneform are all great. perception is op (ONLY IF YOU KNOW A STEALTHY IS AROUND) so it doesnt count to much but ya.
pallies are broken in pvp compared to shaman.
even tank shaman (you can dispel ghost wolf btw).
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Idk I think having multiple Pally’s on your team right now is stronger than having multiple Shamans. But idk I haven’t done much wsg this level bracket. Pally bubble’s too good.
You don’t see people stacking Shamans. You do see people bringing multiple Pally’s though.
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Alliance players have been saying this for the past 20 years . Very old news . I believe you are too late for the crying party . Those tears have been dried up along time ago .
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theyve been saying it til private servers proved it was the other way around.