Did Exile’s Reach on Alliance recently and when you get to Stormwind the gnome Lindie Springstock says something like “The Horde destroyed much of Stormwind a few years back, but it’s all repaired now.”
wut
Is he talking about the first RTS? Is he on about The First War still? Now? In 2020? Or is he one of those people who believe anything on Facebook who’s convinced of some WoW version of the Bowling Green massacre? 'Cause as a Hordie, I sure don’t remember sacking Stormwind during World of Warcraft. I do remember Orgimmar being sacked though.
I dunno. I mean, I know The First War probably isn’t as long ago in WoW as it is here in meatspace, but it seems weird hearing an NPC talking about stuff from twenty-five years ago like it was just a couple years back. It’s got to at least been ten years in the game, right? Maybe even 20? I mean, Anduin was born after and has grown up since then, right? But I know in-game time is wonky. Not trying to be pedantic about it.
It just seemed like a cheap and unearned “The Horde are the bad guys, new player, and this is more proof” when there’s other stuff, in World of Warcraft, he could have brought up to make the Horde look bad. Bringing up Orcs & Humans from 1995 seemed just bizarre.
Oldtown is what is left of the original city.
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never trust gnomes, they make things up like this “Mechagon”
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You talk like that when you get old. I talk about the ‘90s like it was “a few years back” sometimes.
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I guess that could be it. “A few years back” “That was thirty years ago, grandpa.”
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Gnomes are never to be trusted, just look at their city!
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An army of blood-crazed mutants kicking in the door to your reality, killing your king, and burning your city to ashes tends to leave an impression on people.
It’s just how we say Hi Neighbor in orcish.
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I think they’re referring to when Xul set Stormwind on fire to help with his and Talanji’s escape.
It did pretty significant damage and set most of the city on fire. Jaina was forced to use her magic on that instead of the escaping prisoners.
EDIT: I know this conflicts with the current chronology. However, Stormwind burning is the only damage to the city since Deathwing. The dialogue is likely an oversight that came from trying to make Exile’s Reach not directly tied to any specific expansion’s timeline.
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I think its been like 30 ish years since the first war to current and the first war lasted like 4-5 years.
Unless hes overblowing when a few horde elites raided the dungeons to free the zandalari princess and zul put a torch to the city…
Nope, because right after this we’re sent to Anduin to start BfA. Talanji’s escape either hasn’t happened yet or just happened in-game-time-wise.
I’ll be old and grey and the 90’s will still be ten years ago to me.
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I assume she was talking about the time in BFA were the Horde player character and some leaders snuck in to get Saurfang.
That was a covert op, we didn’t do any structural damage…except for all the fires.
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Just look at anywhere they live for long, like Mechagon. And people think goblins are the worst of the two. Kezan sucked if you weren’t rich, but at least Deathwing blew it up, not the goblins.
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Well the problem is that the burning of Stormwind is the only recent damage to the city. The only other time it’s been damaged in recent memory is the Cataclysm.
I think you’ve hit on a plot hole because in the original story, the burning of Stormwind is what caused the Alliance to ally with Kul Tiras. When you arrive in the palace, Anduin and Jaina are meeting with a survivor from the fleet that chased Talanji. They’re left under the impression that the Horde has allied with Zandalar and that’s what motivates Jaina to go to Kul Tiras (which is when the Tol Dagor scenario happened).
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I was agreeing that maybe he meant Xul but… your point does kind of invalidate this. The timeline just doesn’t match. It COULD be future proofing for future expansions when new players start off in Shadowlands or something but… it just doesn’t make any sense right now.
The only other thing I can think of was the destruction during Cataclysm, but… that was very clearly the result of a big crazy dragon, not the Horde.
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Ignoring that this is just bait;
You do understand that a creature that measures its life span in centuries would consider something as paltry as 25 years as just a short time ago, right?
This seems like the most reasonable answer. They might be planning to make new players quest through Shadowlands, once we go to the next expansion. At that point the dialogue would be accurate and new players would no longer be pointed to BfA.
They could have just not said anything about it. That probably would have been better.
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I mean, the Horde did destroy much of Stormwind. It just wasn’t in World of Warcraft. It was, I think, in the first Warcraft RTS game back in '95. So, the gnome isn’t wrong. it just seemed really odd for him to bring it up.
Yeah, I mean, I don’t mind the Horde being shown in a bad light to Alliance players, but at least pick something from the actual WoW MMO. There’s 15 years of Horde stuff to talk about there.