Horde complained about Av premades now make Wsg premades non-stop

Tridevi-azuresong · January 31, 2020, 9:09pm

I have run out of reasons to log onto the game besides for raids as battlegrounds were fun, now its just non stop horde premades in WSG while we ghost ourselves waiting for the game to end.

Contention-benediction · January 31, 2020, 9:12pm

WSG has a group queue function.

AV doesn’t. Not recognizing this at this point, when Blizzard has made changes to squelch AV premades, is intentional ignorance.

I only solo queue and fight Alliance premades in WSG constantly. The fix to what you’re experiencing is to join a WSG premade team.

Lupay-earthfury · January 31, 2020, 9:14pm

AV does have a group queue now. Has Blizzard stated that the changes were meant to prevent premades specifically? I don’t recall seeing that but correct me if Im wrong. The changes were made to prevent games that created and not filled so that the matches started off balanced. Now that premades are no longer creating empty AVs I don’t think Blizzard will change a thing. They don’t care.

Nevets-netherwind · January 31, 2020, 9:14pm

This makes me giggle.

Contention-benediction · January 31, 2020, 9:15pm

Ah, good point. OP should group queue AV with 4 friends as well, that’s another good option.

Tlry-tichondrius · January 31, 2020, 9:31pm

Can you address his other point? The changes seem to be combating empty lobbies specifically.

Grulgor-blaumeux · January 31, 2020, 9:37pm

Nerd-faerlina · January 31, 2020, 9:37pm

With this change in classic making AV queues 1hr and WSG just a premade farm fest i’ve given up ranking and probably classic i just don’t see the fun in BGs at all now

Contention-benediction · January 31, 2020, 10:20pm

They don’t specify in any way. This is supposition.

Alterac Valley Adjustments Incoming

We’ve prepared a collection of improvements that we’re going to make to Alterac Valley in WoW Classic over the next few days. Our goal is to make surgical adjustments that address some of the more prominent pain points and unfortunate behaviors, without cracking open the substance of the battleground.

As Soon As Possible

We’re working on a hotfix that will go live soon that will make honorless targets unlootable. This is intended to further discourage camping the starting caves as an efficient activity.

With Scheduled Weekly Maintenance

Several concurrent adjustments should positively affect the initial state of each instance of Alterac Valley:

Alterac Valley will now allow parties of up to 5 players to queue together. When a party queues together, they will be placed into the same battleground.

There will no longer be a number in the name of the battleground in the “Join Battle” screen.

We’re fixing a setting that allowed the battleground to start with as few as 20 players on a team.

All they mention are pain points and unfortunate behaviors. Part of it is the initial starting conditions; however, this was a symptom of the illness.

If it was focused entirely on this point alone, the last change listed would suffice. Removal of queue numbers was targeting the method premades utilized to mass queue, which wouldn’t be necessary to implement in tandem with the tertiary change of tweaking the amount of people required to start.

They directly reference unfortunate behaviors, which isn’t in reference to the initial starting state. Is it a soft way of saying exploiting and being openly hostile to those Alliance not in premades.

From someone who has always played both factions, this change is obviously intended to impede a behavior that is exploitative and diminishing the quality of the game for everyone.

Killjõy-pagle · January 31, 2020, 10:27pm

the alliance has found a way around AV premade and they are back so blizz fixed nothing

Unwashed-fairbanks-796722 · January 31, 2020, 10:28pm

What is the incentive to queue into AV as Alliance if you’re exalted with the faction already? Honor is terrible without a coordinated team which Alliance pugs lack.

Brobius-smolderweb · January 31, 2020, 10:41pm

Honestly, with the exception of AV at it’s current state, WoW doesn’t cater to solo queuers when it comes to battlegrounds. If they wanted to make it fair for WSG and upcoming AB, they’d make it so that premades can only face premades. Only problem with that is that queue times would skyrocket.

Currently, my wait time for AV has doubled but I’m no longer facing premades which makes the experience more enjoyable. Would I be willing to wait double the queue time for WSG to have fairer games? Hell yes.