Horde clearly haven't learned their lesson yet

They seem to think they are entitled to Blizzard fixing a problem they made. They seem to think that if they whine enough it will happen. They seem to think that if they report everyone who disagrees with them then they are in the right.

Clearly they haven’t learned. Blizzard isn’t going to cater to you. After phase 2 alliance couldn’t care less about your PvP inconveniences. Get used to it because the queues are getting longer and the premades are here to stay. I know this is not what you want to hear but it is the truth.

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The sad part is horde can actually win AV games faster. But they prolong the games because they have long queues. smh

Oh, please someone let the horde know AV is not about pvp. It never was, queue up for a WSG game and soon AB or go out in the world and zerg down those lv50’s.

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Just redirecting from the issue that premades affect both sides. Took 10 minutes for an AV to fill after a premade dropped queue and a game began 8v40. By the time the game filled, Horde were already pulling Vann.

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Your own faction is throwing you under the bus. Little do they know it’s going to end sooner then later.

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I personally LOVE the long queues. Gives me time to catch up on real life, and allows me to go farm wpvp for honor and get ahead of people who simply afk AV all day.

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alliance made the issue by not engaging in pvp lol, what is it with you guys and blaming the horde for problems you cause

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assuming this is someone from a premade, you are hurting your own alliance members much more than any minor inconvenience the premades cause to horde.

causing problems in the vast majority of alliance AV games to benefit the elitist few.

if i were horde id be very happy that the premades have given 95% win rate to all horde, all the time.

if the premades didnt exist horde would have much lower win rate.

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There are many posts complaining about premades from Alliance players. I’m done getting thrown under the bus by premades but please do continue your righteous cause.

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Nah, soon there wont be any actual pugs left queuing. There will only be a few kind of people. Premades, Premade snipers, and bots/afks.

Yup just queue snipe, if you need me to link how its done just let me know.

95% of players will always be pugs.

very small percentage read or post on these forums, smaller percentage participate in premades.

i think your overestimating the average gamer / wow player.

many allinace players arent even aware of the fact that premades are the reason theire losing AV. theres many people out there that dont raid, dont use discord at all, would never conisider using a premade.

pretty much true in most mmos, the vast majority are casual players.

LOL, imagine blaming the horde for a 100% alliance created problem.

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The problem is you’re thinking as an individual and a normal person. Most of the frothy-foam mouthed forum goers don’t like this.

AV is broken on both sides, just seems to be Ally typically feel entitled like they some how earned this right.

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It was when it was server only, at least on most servers.

I’ll tell ya what lesson we have learned…

The Alliance are douche bags.

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I dont think you understand reality. Premades are not a huge part of what horde experiences. Most of our matches are wins with nearly max honor. I don’t mind the challenge of a good premade, except for the exploiting. We bump into premades sometimes, but the ones that arent are usually face rolls because they have 12 people. You aren’t hurting horde, you are hurting your own community.

The largest problem we have on the Horde side is how many don’t listen to strategy. They just chase your group mounted tail feather while foaming at the mouth for HK final blows. Therefore, we have minimal amount grouping up like we should on your zergs and most won’t listen to strategy detail due to what realm the person may be in. That’s the nutshell right there. Waiting so long, and it seems we just have dogs going into a dog park. Props to the players who look at AV like they should rather than other BG’s. Alliance, your performance is proving a point.

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it did happen tho.

on retail. it’s called mercenary mode.

They wont understand this because a lot of them werent actually around for old AV and have no idea it was used primarily as an honor / rep grinder while the real pvp was at wsg and ab.