Horde bg q's are 50mins

Reroll alliance for instant queues, don’t want to? Then don’t pvp.

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Except you never actually played AV during those 1 1/2 years, cuz you wouldve noticed alliance premades farming and winning AV for a good while until most of them hit r13/14 and then Blizz finally decided to do something about it. And even before they moved the horde starting cave, alliance had good winrates towards the end of classic on AV weekends.

Do yourself and your faction a favor and dont post if you dont know what youre talking about. Alternatively, you can continue parroting the usual BS and making your side continue to sound like the entitled manchildren you are.

For three weeks until you guys cried because you no longer could rely on your busted map advantage for free wins. Then Daddy blizz came and saved you.

Real rich coming from the guy who zerged the baby mode faction is now upset that they only have almost all the advantages in game instead of all of them.

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Um, that wont actually fix anything. Its like you are saying bgs should be dead and no one should care about them

personally i just like them better than arena, more fun

have your fellow horde reroll alliance so that way the queue times shorten. we do not need to give the horde even more advantages.

if horde fight the horde in pvp queue then what is the purpose of going alliance if i can just go horde and get: more people for groups/arena/dungeons and more guilds to choose from?

And your problem with discussing solutions is what? Why troll threads like this in an attempt to shut down meaningful conversation? There is obviously a problem. Honestly, what is the problem with faction transfers?

If the shoe were on the other foot, which it may very well be if everyone decides to reroll alliance. Wouldn’t you want at least some type of option for the game to balance itself, besides having to start back from level 1 and lose everything? Not only does it fix this current problem, but it also provides a solution for if faction imbalance becomes an issue in the future. Similar to how the option to transfer servers fixes future problems of dead servers or faction imbalances on the server.

i dont see why it matters? I dont really care if we have alliance if we can have bgs that pop without them.

That’s why we really don’t care if yall sit in queue for an hour.

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personally im not even playing, i just dont like the alliance races and im not waiting an hour. its not even about racials for me i dont like how they made humans look and the others are ridiculous

The alliance could be dead for all i care, sounds like it is anyway for pvp. Horde vs horde bgs or merc mode would solve this.

Its not like there is any alliance pvp to kill off anyway

The game would be better with less people like you. Extremely selfish to the point where you actively want to do my faction harm (causing them all to go Horde) in order to solve issues caused by your side bandwagoning. That’s extra toxic behavior

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The same can be said about the people saying “reroll or don’t pvp” though (extremely selfish and self-serving). And I agree, mercenary mode is harmful to the game. It’s just a bad idea overall. Why would you even play alliance if everyone can just be horde? But, there are other options for faction balance (faction transfer, battle groups) that IMO are not harmful.

Sorry for not liking the appearance of alliance races bud. I think humans are really weird in wow, and i got tired of maining the short races years ago.

You act like pvp being dead is good for the game lmao. get over yourself! that is the last thing thats “good for the game”

Yea and the best option is to just reroll or take advantage of the boost. Real alliance issues were ignored for the duration of classic. You guys will survive your hour long queues given all the terribad game design we endured.

That’s not selfish, that’s pointing out a fix to your issue. What you suggest is someone coming in and fixing the mess you made.

Let us faction change.

So, what is your problem with introducing faction transfer? Is it spite? That’s a selfish reason

This can be fixed without Blizzard’s intervention, let me explain.

Right now queing as alliance is soul crushing. Our best bet for HPH is AV, and Horde send half their team to Galv and force turtles to make the game as long as possible and as unfun for the alliance as possible. No wonder most alliance don’t bother playing when their opponent behaves this way. I only que because honor is needed to do arenas. As soon as my honor set is finished, I won’t que anymore and your queues will get even worse.

If you want lower que times make the game more fun for your opponents. Stop sending 20 horde to Galv. Ride past us north and BASE RACE us, more alliance will que and we’ll BOTH get better HPH as we both burn towers and flip a coin to decide who kills the boss first.

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If bliz does nothing at all what they are doing is acting fair because this is a player made problem. When you ask for ways to fix your queue just remember there’s another faction to that would deserve some kind of compensation.

No, I believe people are doing it for selfish reasons. They’re worried that if this problem is addressed, they won’t have instant queues. But the queues will be more balanced on both sides, and be overall better for the game. I’m sorry, but having to play a particular faction because they refuse to provide any options to balance out the sides is not fair.

Many of the problems alliance faced on pvp servers did actually have a solution (server transfer to pve). I did it, and others could do it as well. The point is there is currently NO solution to the current problem aside from giving up your character.

PVP doesn’t have to be “dead” though. You just don’t need to gut a faction in order to fix the issue. If you look at the forums over the past few days the overwhelming majority of Alliance players look to be cool with allowing H -> A transfers. Everybody bandwagoning Horde caused this issue. It effects a lot more of the game then only BGs too. It’s just bandwagoners only experience one part of the issue that they caused. You pushing for a solution that means my faction no longer exists is a lot more warranted of “Get over yourself” then us wanting a solution that makes everybody else happier.

Grow up