Horde AV win rate isn't 95% anymore. Blizz please fix!

It’s not the same thing, for the reasons described above.

If you’re holding a grudge against the entire horde player base for things that happened back in vanilla classic then that’s your prerogative lol, it makes no difference to me.

I only played AV when it was near guaranteed win during this expansion and that’s only bc we had hour queues in the rest of them.

Like I said, this bickering means nothing nor does your gloating when we both know blizzard is going to fix it

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They cant fix it short of banning discord.

Wasnt fixed in Classic, wont be fixed here.

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Disable players choosing their bg number in AV.

Boom

Drink is just trolling you. As a heads up.

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He was at first lol

The premade doesnt pick an AV number…

Nor do AV numbers show up on the join screen.

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We’ll see what they do then, but you know they’re gonna do something. AV was never meant to be premade lol

The AV teams aren’t even premades. The alliance literally just all get into a discord together.

Is communication cheating? Should they revert to animal noises and Gruul grunting at one another?

They already did the fixes you just said rofl.

Short of banning discord, they cant do anything.

Its just 300+ players in a discord rofl.

Which again isnt cheating.

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In all seriousness because alliance have a queue time now it’ll be interesting to see if horde will decide to premade av or not and how it’ll do. If enough people can get in without an overwhelming amount of green geared newbies attempting to join them it should make for some interesting games.

Communication isn’t cheating, but abusing the queue system in a way that gives you an advantage in a bg that was never meant to be premade definitely falls into an EULA gray area

It will be fun to see.

Issue is they couldnt do it back in classic when the same thing happened.

Tbh i feel like Horde is a lot less organized for being the “pvp” faction and all.

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Not abusing anything.

300+ people que.

The que pops.

All the people who got the que hop into an AV channel.

Not really cheating…

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It’s not abuse though. People just say in discord how many people are in their team. They’re just alerting others that they also got into the same game.

And what was the Alliance response to that?

Oh yeah, to just stop queueing, to the point that Horde queues became tangible. This is literally you tasting your own medicine.

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Medicine tasting pretty good!

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Well horde couldn’t do it back then because there were just too many horde still queueing it because it was the best honor per hour. Now with instant queues av is in the same boat it was for alliance back then. It’s just a bg done for tokens, fun or to afk in. I don’t find horde to be any less organized as a whole. But instant queues have brought the same issues alliance had back at the start. The barrier to entry is so low a lot more casuals and poorly geared people will use it to gear up. Which means more afks etc.

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Yeah i can see that as being the biggest issue.

TBH fast ques seem to bring bad players or more afk players.

I guess its easier to go through those bad players in a discord.

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100%. If you can wrangle up enough motivation and cut through the bs with a decent leader it makes the game much more enjoyable and an actual fight rather than a clown show.

As a side note Alliance AV que is currently 30m.