Ok this dude almost has it.
Almost asif people play horde because they are op in classic? Combine that with a horde only class being OP and you are left with sod PvP.
Generally if horde are better players, why are the cata leaderboards 95% alliance?
Waiting for this horde to dodge the question like the last.
Low IQ levels detected.
they canât even cap the flag while in bubble and it only lasts 12 seconds with a 5 min cd⌠Totems 100% are far more powerful than bubble will ever be because of how many totems you have and how often you can use them within the 5 min duration a paladin would have to wait for bubble to come back up
Vanilla and Cata are solved games, Mr. Low IQ. Yes, in vanilla horde have an advantage. Sweaty ppl go horde in vanilla classic. SoD changed it up by making paladins overpowered but people arent going to go reroll. If they did SoD boogaloo clown fiesta 2 with the same exact data we have now, alliance would be what ppl pick to play as for pvp.
BGs are just a premade fecal shows right now anyway so if you arent doing full premades you wont have any real pulse on how PVP actually is between factions. When they removed the premade restriction they made pugging unplayable again.
Someone didnât play most of SoD.
Yeah sod balanced it by making pallies op. Thatâs why there was only 1 class to gain population between phases 2 and 4, where as every single other class dropped in numbers.
Can you guess what class this is?
Low IQs like this guy canât see the bigger picture. Itâs almost asif people roll the fotm specs / classes.
People would roll shaman and blizzard would be forced to implement queue changes. All the data suggests orc shaman being the strongest race / class, based on population growth.
I can guarantee most shaman players in SoD only rolled the class due to FOTM factor during P2-4.
Ele shams are about to gaslight you so hard.
to be fair. His logic would still work here. In CATA the Horde racials are better for pve and PVP focused / minded players will gravitate to ALLY for EMF. PVP minded players gravitate to horde for the Hardiness/wotf.
And thatâs because?
I que abit, all depends on que times. Id say its 50/50 from my exp.
Literally just stomped an alliance premade as a full horde pug for my last game of the week. Itâs just not true man horde just has momentum on their side.
Easy shamans require brain dead gameplay to purge plus massive damage from 2 buttons. This was the obvious result and why everyone stopped playing sod
Alliance really seem to have worse players on average. I ran into a buddy of mine not too long ago on SOD that I played with on Horde 20 years ago in OG classic after he recognized my name(anyone else from Nerâzhul here?) and he says PvPing as Alliance is a nightmare and that heâll never again play Alliance again after SOD, lmao.
I asked him why exactly and apparently Alliance players often donât even type out incomings via chat/raid warnings in AB and that its not too rare to go entire games with nobody saying anything at all. As someone who briefly PvPed on my Dwarf Rogue when I was planning to switch over to him from this Warrior earlier on in Phase 4, this does seem to be the case compared to Horde PUGs.
I think this makes more sense than the bads whining about Shamans and Hardiness 24/7, especially with Paladins being dramatically stronger in PvP in SOD and not just a dumb healbot like they were in Era.
pre-60 phases dont matter much, especially compared to end game
paladins are monsters end game, exactly as aggrend intended
Wait how are you confused, I literally answered it in your block quote OF ME. Horde has superior racials in classic wow for PvP. So PvP players who are serious about PvP are obviously going to pick the faction with superior racials.
This doesnât require Sherlock Holmes.
Just did my calculations from playing 3 days on and off as Alliance. (68 Games)
I did 5 games in a premade (which we won) rest pug
HORDE WON 79.5%
Remove the premades I did
HORDE WON 85% of the time. Math checks out
love the gaslighting, blame everyone else except the real problem that is class and faction balance. Seriously how delusional are the horde and shaman players here.
Pray tell where you got this data statistic? And donât tell me itâs just yourâs solely by itself, a sample size of 1 means nothing.
When it comes to AB the first fight BS is the win condition.
On the paladin vs shaman, shamans have a greater advantage and hereâs why.
Most shamans are ranged (elem). They relish in TF thanks to Flameshock and Chain Lightning. 2 or 3 elem coupled with a few boomies is very powerful. And SR allows them and their teammates to keep pumping so if both teams are somewhat balanced, Horde wins on the long run.
Paladin (especially Ret) on the other hand does better at single target explosion. Weâre basically great on 1v1 situation, but not so much in TF. During most TF, you have hunters frost traps, mages orbs, shaman totems, making it very difficult to stay on target.
If said shamans decide to spam purge, they effectively negate you entirely. And while doing so, their Flameshocks are still ticking with a potential instant proc LB.
The meta is caster/ranged favored atm. Most premade rather stack Hunter/Shaman/Drood than Ret/War/rogue, though Melee cleave premade can work. Itâs also easier for healers to heal the ranged players next to them than to heal the melees and overextend in the process.
Bubble was a good way to wreak havoc in the backline as a Ret but now that itâs been nerfed, it is best to keep it for potential flag spinning. Adding to that the orc passive (provides a better defense to stun procs from boomies/sp and rogue/ret) and thatâs why Horde has the advantage in AB.
It doesnât mean that itâs unwinnable, but Alliance needs more preparation and organization. We loose most PU game but so far Iâve won most if not all my premade games, even against Horde premade.
still waiting for the shaman nerfs, super brainrot class shouldnt be rewarded for it.