Horde AB win rate=85%

And heals less than a riptide

heh, which version of riptide?

the one boosted by purification talent or the one without?

without its 320-354 with a 337 over 15 seconds.

i find it hard to believe it heals less.

I’m being told to do BGs at another time, but I don’t think it will help. One slow loss after another with consistent complaints about shamans almost every game.

You are probably amongst 85% of the ally players I have to deal with every day. You keep blaming on everything else other than your own performance. Literally every ab game I join I see 3-5 ally players in chat “Premade again guys…” We lose BS and half give up - immediately. It’s like clockwork it’s on repeat every game. How can you expect us to win when this give-up mentality of ally gamerdads that want a free win without having to actually touch buttons? It is insane to me how quickly they give up. Oh no, we have actual competiton and Horde actually wants to win, oh sh9t we can actually have a good game here. No, let’s give up instead. so get this through your brain - it is because you/85% of ally players give up after the first loss at BS and it is tiresome. I have to spend more time as a motivational coach to all these pathetic gamerdads to keep them from not giving up more than I get to play. 30 year old kids

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So what you are saying is that you cause any game you join to have a 17:3 L/W ratio?

Yeah, that is how much a 2.5 sec hard cast holy light heals for in BGs

In a ab my heal takes 20% of my mana and heals me for 20%. Its not my playstyle, i do nothing but pvp, ive got over 22k hks on my ret pally.

Okay and? Shamans riptide heal for like 300. I don’t see them complaining. Start doing those 20% heals. You’re a hybrid like the rest of us.

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nah i think it’s the shamans that don’t run out of mana. yea pretty sure that’s the one that’s doing it

The straws you people will grasp at to justify your lack of performance is astonishing.

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Rarely do mana fights matter in AB. Most clashes are over relatively quick. Every single BG goes the same way. Horde rush BS. Alliance go LM and likely pick up mine. That’s 3 nodes in the start. Every single time the Alliance at LM act like it’s surprise that all the horde that went BS are coming LM. Instead of defending the hill, they all sit up top at the flag practically AFK. This is a player problem, not a class problem.

And when horde wins a fight at any given flag and getting stalled out, they have Shamanistic Rage to fall back on to keep fighting near the flag whilst rekilling alliance without much issue. Bubble ain’t winning those fights, which is why SR has been better than Bubble (even post nerf) in any given way.
That is a balancing, racial and class issue, all massively favoring horde without a fail.

Great advice coming from a stealth player, anyone serious would rather fight flag than fight 50y away from flag due to back cappings.

Horde would rather gaslight people into believing shamans and their racials aren’t OP in PvP and especially BGs. But Paladin is? Please, you are trolling hard.

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Bubble can spin a flag for 12 seconds without any counterplay. What are you even talking about? You can rez wave forever but most rets blow their bubble on the dumbest stuff.

You only need one person to physically sit on flag. This is why ally lose. Incredibly incompetent players.

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Yeah this is true.

Except in literally every other iteration of wow for some reason.

It can’t be because there is a an extremely over tuned class on horde side no…

It’s all the bg afkers agreed to roll alliance for sod and the horde are just better.

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Clown town over at stables every game with everyone quitting after the first clash. Player issue. Shamans have been spanked down over and over again. How much more do you all need to actually play the game instead of crying on the forums?

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Balefire Bolt exists as counter, not my mistake for not bringing mage for that alone on horde.

And again gaslighting whilst being blind to the truth of:
"And when horde wins a fight at any given flag and getting stalled out, they have Shamanistic Rage to fall back on to keep fighting near the flag whilst rekilling alliance without much issue. Bubble ain’t winning those fights, which is why SR has been better than Bubble (even post nerf) in any given way.
That is a balancing, racial and class issue, all massively favoring horde without a fail."

Except it’s easier to just quickly lose as pug rather than banging their heads against your OP class and racials.
Which again is a “balancing, racial and class issue”.

Gaslighting anything else whilst the real issues still remain is borderline delusional.

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Oh yeah with all those mages that are in BGs… Rarely see one on a team.

That is a balancing, racial and class issue, all massively favoring horde without a fail."

If I keep failing it’s gotta be the system and not me.

Except it’s easier to just quickly lose as pug

Congrats you finally reached the right conclusion. Ally has short queues and they quit any time it isn’t a stomping at BS.

Again, in no other iteration of wow does this happen.

Your theory is all the afkers banded together to join the alliance and horde are just better players

Was there not an actual movement to just AFK ABs and lose on purpose? You’re right it doesn’t exist, because this version of the game rewards you for still losing.

So you’re saying if the shoe was on the other foot horde wouldn’t lose BGs to get more honour per hour than winning?
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