So recently I started looking into Honor Spy to see where my next week standings are meant to be and I’ve come to the conclusion that I don’t really understand the honor system as it is. I did play in Vanilla and I did get to experience it then but back then I wasn’t looking at rewards really. It was more just for enjoyment in general.
So I know there is a decay on your current status on resets and I understand its a competitive market with everyone else in your faction on your server. Is it possible to rank up multiple times in a single week? Can you go from Rank 1 to Rank 3 or 4? I know I’ve put in well over 80k honor of work to try to jump levels and honor spy puts me in bracket 6 but the results only tell me i’m 86% into rank 2? Maybe I just don’t understand.
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https://wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Honor_system_(pre-2.0)
This will explain everything.
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There is a lot I don’t understand about the honor system, but I can tell you with 100% accuracy that I went from no rank to rank 3 the first week of wpvp. Is that possible for higher ranks though? I’m not certain.
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ya 80k honor is hardly anything…that might only give you the one rank. I’d say the majority of people farmed 250k-500k. And the elites are over 1 million. So sadly you might only go up one rank. But yes, if you place in the top brackets, you can skip a couple ranks at a time.
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I’m kinda waiting to see when I get home tonight to check out how accurate Honor Spy is to my expectations. I’ve definitely seen the difference between me and the elites. I don’t think that really has a marking on the low brackets at the moment though. I’m not really expecting to go from rank 1 to rank 8 or anything. I’m just kinda hoping I may have jumped to rank 3 or 4
Honorspy seems pretty accurate so long as it’s the updated one
Read the honor links and etc. The thing about ranking is that it’s relative to your own server & faction for standing and honor, so if enough people entered pvp pool at 15+HKs or so, but all stopped, you could get standing 1 and maximum ranking points in the top bracket (14/14.5?) with as little as 500 honor, say, but it’s unlikely people would be getting that low honor. So if honor is inflated or more at proper levels unlike when it was just phase 2, and we have BGs, then the honor people have available with play time will accordingly skyrocket, so 80,000 honor on my realm and others at the moment is low compared to the 600,000+ people are pulling.
80k is definitely on the low side. Just doing the rep grind for Stormpike got me around 250k honor this week. Even with that much I’ll only end up gaining one rank because so many people on my server farmed considerably more honor. We’re talking people with over 1m honor, which is just insane.
Yeah i’m not even thinking that i’m competing with others on the side but from what honor spy has told me so far is there is a very large chunk of people around me that have FAR less than that this past week. Now I may not have scanned the majority of people since its only been two days since i started giving it a try but its what I’ve got. The few higher ups I’ve seen were only at 250k on my server.
Also saying this is that my AV ques have led to some pretty piss poor groups that have a one track mind. And if you look at the results screen horde are definitely winning the grind even when they lose. ~3-4k more bonus honor per match.
It depends on your server, very heavily- that’s sort of the benefit of honourspy, it lets you know how much you’ll move within the bracket you’re in.
To put it into perspective, I have half a million honour- and I’ll be moving from low rank 5 to high rank 5, because on my server that’s maybe bracket 8. On another server, if that was say bracket 12, that might take me halfway through rank 6.
It also means, if I were to get half a million honour forever, and nobody else’s honour/week changed- I would never be able to finish the blue pvp set. That is something everyone should consider when going to farm- what bracket are you, because you will never pass that rank if you don’t pvp more (or others in higher brackets pvp less).
Consider that, decide if you intend to keep that up for months or even do more per week for months. Because if not, you’re just not reaching your ranking goal, ever. This isn’t something you can slowly chip away with and eventually reach, that’s not how this system works.
Top bracket on my server is close to 2 million honour- imagine that.
you compete with other players for rank if you get passed you can de rank
the hind sight to that is that as people get bored and leave from burnout (outside of the inevitable bots) those numbers might fluctuate. For now I’m only focused on gaining rep but I know I need more than the PVE leather gear that I’m running with to not be regularly 2 shot.
Consider that, decide if you intend to keep that up for months or even do more per week for months. Because if not, you’re just not reaching your ranking goal, ever. This isn’t something you can slowly chip away with and eventually reach, that’s not how this system works.
Top bracket on my server is close to 2 million honour- imagine that.
And this is why a lot of people have unsubbed. They broke pvp with the version of AV they released. All the content isn’t even out yet, they should have snailed it. Gap is too large now. People that aren’t even 60 don’t have a chance.
If you’re concerned about gear to hold up in pvp, there’s plenty of dungeon plate/crafted pieces you can pick up to make a pretty decent pvp set prior to the blue pvp one.
Keep in mind, honorspy is now heavily handicapped due to the recent patch which prevents AddOns from using global comms. It’s now collecting only data from your raids or parties and relies on other players having it.
So much like Census became, its data is highly unreliable.
yeah that requires cash that I’m still saving for my epic mount. Getting rank 3 will help with that but I’m still really far off in my mind. I have a good chunk of valor to work with but I’m missing the +hit if i use most of it so its a catch 22.
You can attain the required 5% without spending any gold and wearing minimal leather (mask of the unforgiven would be the only piece for 2% hit), it gets a lot easier once you can get the ony neck and lionheart though.
Ony neck is in the works and I’ve already built Lionheart helm. Another 2% i’m getting from devilsaur bonus but that competes with the disarm gloves right now. need to farm the weapon chain pattern.
You can only go + or - 2 ranks a week. So going 24/7 isn’t productive for most.
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