I remember when cross realm pvp first came on the scene. I played on an alliance server. Whenever I saw a bg with 3 or more Kelthuzad players I knew we were going to win.
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Ahh, someone who believes that skill in DETHMATCHINABAWKS somehow translates into āskill at PvPā.
I dont need to read the rest. Thank you for self-identifying as a clown.
Cross-realm BGs are going to make that largely irrelevant. Far too hard to coordinate with tens of thousands of matches going on at any given time.
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What? Youre saying high(er) level arena takes no skill?
High level arena requires alot of:
- game knowledge
- positional awareness
- cooldown efficiency
- patience
- teamwork
Im curious kagthul, if arena takes no skill in your opinion, what aspect of wow does?
Sounds like its about min/maxing yer min/max. Derp.
You must own stock in a straw company, what with all those strawmen youāre constructing.
If you can quote where i said thatā¦ go ahead. I didnāt, thoughā¦ so good luck with that. I said i was amused that youāre one of the people that thinks that Arena skill somehow translates into skill in other forms of PvP. It does not.
No higher than any other form of PvP. Or PvE for that matter.
Ok? Not sure what this has to do with the price of tea in china, but hey, you go on with your bad self.
Only in the tactical sense.
Again with the strawmen. Please quote where i said āArena takes no skillā. Oh, you cant. Because i didnt.
I didnāt say āArena takes no skillā. I said Arena is only āDeath match in a boxā - which is true. It is not a strategic exercise. Its a purely tactical exercise. And skill at purely tactical exercises does NOT translate automatically into skill at strategic exercises. You can be the best deathmatch hero in the world, and be an absolute and total liability to my BG team because you cant understand how to play the objectives, all the while believe that your Arena rating matters.
Iāve won plenty of BGs through out-thinking my opponents; while the Elite 2k+ rated DETHMATCHEROZ roam around killingā¦ i take 3-4 people and back-cap their entire line.
Because not all PvP is about deathmatch. I can win a BG with zero kills. Thatās still PvP, and you blinkered Arena tryhards that insist that only skill at Deathmatch matters are fools.
Ooh it makes sense now. Youre a bg player who has never pushed decent rating in rated pvp, who feels the need to push a narrative which promotes the idea that you are equally (or greater) skilled than the ones who have the achievements to prove it.
When it comes to skill in wow pvp i think its pretty clear that generally speaking, bgs take more skill than world pvp (simply because of even number players), and arenas take more skill than bgs. (Because theres less room to hide/ get carried. Aka in arena as a player, your choices have more of an impact on the result because you are 33% of your team)
The honor is in winning and not dying.
Whats not honorable about that?
Yes! Bgs coming out on the 10th, announced 2 days after i made this thread. YOURE WELCOME
Ah, so youāre the aff lock that joins RBG pugs and puts out less damage than the disc priest or FC.
Arena isnāt the only PvP metric, but itās a strong one, and itās quantifiable.
Iāve noticed a pretty strong correlation leading half RBG pugs the past five years between achievements (specifically arena) and ability.
Unlike you (a dotard) I read your posts and itās clear you are likely a middling PvPer at best with an embarrassing 120 honor level yet no arena or rated experience. Sad, really.
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Wpvp never mattered, the only kind of person that cares about it are those that cant pvp in a fair enviroment, always been.
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Careful guys. They be swinging the arena ratings peen around. Feelings gonna get hurt! 
āEvolved PVP like todayā
ā¦yeah, like arena that cant be won till dampening (or unless you ate playing a complete noob) fun 
The answer has been in front of us since classic, pretty straightforward really: Paid Transfers to PvE Servers Should be Allowed - #50 by Ilarra-turalyon
I feel like world pvp goes right over peoples head. Itās just some Warcraft in this world of Warcraft. It isnāt supposed to be fair and it isnāt supposed to be merciful. Think Of a German soldier marching through Russia in ww2. they werenāt met with honorable duels. They were met with any means to wipe them off the face of the earth. Thatās world pvp dawg. -Undead Rogue.
But this is classic, not vanilla?
Yes there was. And in AV you couldnāt queue in a group once cross realm was iniated as well.
Nothing wrong with enjoying classic, but PvP has evolved.
Thatās Classic āPvPā, super imbalanced.
You mean where everyone has the same gear and numbers?