Honestly, what is the point of pathfinder?

I can only see it as a way to keep players subbed for longer. Or to get people to come back when it gets released a year after the game launches. There just can’t be any positives for holding out on flying for so long, then turning it into an annoying grind to use it.

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You answered your own question.

To keep you subbed, to get people back. Money.

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I enjoyed it. And that’s coming from someone who never got a pathfinder completed before.

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Kratos, yes, it would be great if they released PF2 sooner. As for the rest, it’s here so you may as well do it.

The sooner you do it the sooner it’s done.

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The devs dont like flying.

Players like flying.

Pathfinder was the middleground.

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It’s not bad, kinda fun even. My only gripe is that it takes them too long to release part 2.

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Eh I didn’t mind being on foot the past 11 months. But I mainly just do the assaults.

month 1, do pathfinder 1, unsub --------------------------> pathfinder part 2 comes out, month 2 do pathfinder part 2

doesn’t add up.

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Pride and spite.

They could have put flight on PF1, had it available to be completed from the day the expansion dropped, and it would be all good… but that would mean swallowing their pride and admitting their “vision” was flawed. So they drag it out, wrap it around a bunch of gates, and sit back watching Cinderella do the chores or she can’t go to the ball.

They don’t want flight, so they made this “compromise”. Flight in 9.1/9.2 will be even longer waits than the last ones… if they don’t put in a PF3 and drag it out to patch 9.7.

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This argument doesn’t make any sense to me.

Is it believed that if we just paid gold for flying, people would stop playing as soon as the purchased it?

Think bigger picture, and how mmos traditionally are.

Mmos have always been a grindfest. That’s perfectly normal, instant gratification has never been an mmo thing.

However, timegating is a process used to delay the grinding, mostly because so many no-lifers will spend countless hours in a sitting to achieve those goals, then complain about having nothing to do. Maybe they’ll quit too.

So if blizzard gave us flying without timegating, then those people would get it, then cry there’s nothing to work for and quit.

Then if they continue with timegating, the same people will cry about having to wait, and possibly quit.

It’s a no win situation.

For regular people who play a couple hours a day, a game without timegating would be perfect, because it’d take a while to achieve anyway. I’m one of those, I play an hour or two a day, even at the start of expansions. So things take me time to do, and I don’t mind, but I don’t like the gating they have. But I understand why they do it.

New gamers (under 30s) can’t comprehend what it is to work for things in a video game. They haven’t encountered it before, and to a point it’s understandable why they’re so scared and confused. I also don’t understand why they can’t adapt. I did, but then I game with older gamers who taught me what I know (over 40s).

I watch those people complain, and I let it slide mostly. They don’t get it, but it’s not entirely their fault.

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Revenge. No other way to say it. The devs are being spite full because they wanted it gone. The players want to keep it.

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So essentially the bottomline is people will complain regardless.

I am in the same camp as you. Play a little everyday and would have liked being able to have been working on pathfinder the entire time rather than waiting until 9 months in.

I’m convinced those developers making the decisions concede to others in the group that push certain ideas for the sake of “ok… we’ll try your idea”, and probably secretly knowing it will fail.
Ok Blizzard you let little Timmy pull the car in the driveway, you don’t let him drive on the freeway.

God knows what the devs actually, really think it is, but it feels like (and always has) a punishment for not meekly accepting their decision not to implement flying ever again (in Draenor and going forward). Remember, some of them think adding flying was a mistake to begin with.

Ion hates flying but he knows he can’t get rid of it without driving away players. He makes us do Pathfinder out of spite. He gets his year of forcing us on the ground, hoping we’ll get used it but that plan is never going to work.

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Late 40s here…grindfests never work when they aren’t fun, and when they are forced.

That’s the problem the last two expansions. Pathfinder creates a forced grind.

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Ion needs the almighty /time played metric fed. You will feed it and like it.

All functions serve Kronomet, the Time Metric God.

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