So you help kids have a healthy diet and try to improve drivers skill and reflexes.
You are a good person after all.
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https://wow.gamepedia.com/Gerard_Abernathy#Dialogue_about_Theresa
Gerard Abernathy says: It was simple once I broke her spirit.
Gerard Abernathy says: Everyone has a weakness, itâs just a matter of finding it.
Gerard Abernathy says: I managed to discover that certain parts of the brain when removed or stimulated will make the subject much more docile.
Gerard Abernathy says: You donât expect me to give up all of my secrets, do you?
Gerard Abernathy says: A little torture, a pinch of magic, and an ample helping of invasive surgery. She was conscious, of course.
Gerard Abernathy says: A little ritual torture can go a long way.
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Maybe if I add that I talk to strangers in elevators and steal toilet paper rolls from public restrooms?
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As evil as any damaged humans can be.
When it comes down to it, they have free-will and each Forsaken is different on their own personal background, progressing story and goals whether they be short-term or long-term.
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To be fair, Godfrey was already a bit evil when he was alive. Iâm not sure his actions once he was raised are all that different from what he might have done had he somehow escaped Gilneas alive and was found by the Forsaken. Being undead certainly didnât help his morals, though.
Man do people think that genocidal maniacs arenât evil nowadays?
They ran around killing and targeting civilians specifically, and their leader then tortures and obliterates their souls.
Not evil LOL
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This post was from 2 days agoâŚwhich would be November 10âŚthat is far from HalloweenâŚ
Yeah, this thought occurred to me back during Halloween, but I just thought to post it a few days ago.
In vanilla, most of the forsaken were somewhat edgy and out for themselves, but they werenât openly genocidal and sadistic and some of them even came off as mostly normal. That outright evil ones were mostly the RAS which was heavily associated with Varimithras. All of the questionable deeds done during vanilla questing were done for members of the RAS.
Cataclysm kind of threw this distinction out the window though and Forsaken lore is kind of a mess as youâve described.
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It sucks because the Forsaken didnât used to be evil. They werenât actively raising new Forsaken, they werenât slaughtering human civilians. They came off as people in a very unfortunate situation just trying to survive in a world that despised them. But Cataclysm made them Scourge 2, bringing people back from the dead, including their victims, against their will and killing them when the process justly drove their victims mad.
They went from being a group of unfortunates trying to protect themselves to outwardly malicious, genocidal maniacs, with a leader that reflects this.
So torture and making bio weapons to use on the living is good?
3 MONTHS LATER
/10char
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why did you need the â/10 charâ?
â3 months laterâ is over 10 characters
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I donât care how long ago it was.
The people they were torturing and using bio-weapons on in classic were primarily scarlet crusaders who were more than happy to slaughter them for no reason.
its called war crimes my dude and no the people they tortured, was a tauren, and a farmer woman, from southshore
Forums mods might. There are rules against posting in threads that hadnât been posted in for a while. Itâs commonly called ânecroâing a threadâ. Itâs not super egregious, but⌠worth avoiding. A faux paw.
Hells if I know. The board wouldnât let me post it without it lmao
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I donât really care about war crimes committed against bigoted crusaders set out to slaughter people for the crime of existing tbh. Now I think I know what the two quests youâre talking about are, but they werenât the norm in classic. It wasnât like ALL undead quest givers wanted you to do things that made you inarguably evil. It could be argued in classic that those were isolated events.
And Blizzard itself has a weird relationship with war crimes, since they made a âgood guyâ faction that uses plagues in war (Maldraxxians).
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Welp, the thread has already been necroed (ironic considering the subject matter) so might as well jump in
While the forsaken are portrayed differently in different zones/expacs/books we can paint a somewhat cohesive picture which is
1- normal forsaken civilians are relatively normal people who happen to be dead, kinda like the Adams family
2- the higher up the pecking order you go and specially in the military you find Scourge 2.0, exactly the monsters everyone insisted they were
Everyone is okay with slavery though, so long as forsaken arent the ones being stripped of their freedom/freewill
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/honest-question-how-evil-are-the-forsaken/715621/22
the time with the valkyrs in Stormheim
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/regarding-slavery-practices-on-the-horde/115731/76
So yeah screw these guys
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