Blizzard, Holy Shield damage is definitely far too weak. Perma-thorns is not good enough. Buff it and make sure to give paladins a bleed. Also Null Barrier is gutter trash. Why do people’s auto-attacks destroy it so quick? like 2 auto shots from a hunter deletes it? Are you serious? I thought it’s supposed to be a 98k absorb every here-and-there. I don’t really care to play my prot paladin this season. Passively dealing as much damage as a frost mage, while I don’t press buttons, is NOT quite gonna cut it. I’m out.
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I’ll take the bait… I will also take buff to Prot Pal but it’s already amazing but sure why not. Guess you could get gushing on your pally? I use ancient flame and crucible.
You can buff holy shield damage with attack power and versa. Heart level raises Null barrier. I couldn’t imagine buffing either of those they are already really strong.
Some casters it’s impossible to kill a Prot Pally but sure buff them. I can already reduce a 200k Bolt down to zero damage with block and Null but hey I’d like to do that to the 500k ones. So maybe you are right buffs are needed.
Yeah. As if gushing will just magically god damn appear. Right. Next thing you know, you’ll probably be talking about how the heart necklace will suddenly make all classes better, when in reality, the difference between a level 75 and 100 heart would be like using one of those Rune Stones that temporarily gives you a trash/negligible amount of stats. 800k HP isn’t really “prot” when compared to other expansions. Getting “hard stuck” like these dorks say at 2.2k as prot paladin is pretty frustrating. If I can’t deal more passive damage and be competitive what’s the point? Prot paladin needs buffs. If their passive damage from being hit by melee attacks can’t just let me AFK, and stand there in order to deal as much damage as someone trying hard and actually pressing buttons, then there’s no point in playing. Losing only 15% of my health in a 2v2 fight while they get thorns’d down to 20% of their health while I heal as good as a disc priest, isn’t good enough. Holy Shield isn’t good enough, and is in no way powerful at all. Buff prot paladin and make them deal as much damage as a DPS and give null barrier 2x it’s current power. Also up it’s charge-rate. This is stupid. Point-blank-period.
Your wall of txt is challenging 
Hmmm Stunandbung is 2357 as Prot ( was 2500 ish? ) but with that said usually the Meta dictates more at high ratings than the class/spec.
Thorns and magic damage really shouldn’t be hurting you but maybe be happy at 2200 and figure out how you and your team can improve to 2500? Maybe ask for the Meta to change? Asking for buffs to something that is already really strong doesn’t make sense though.
This seems to be a gearing issue and stat optimization issue. Nullbarrier already absorbs enough with versa build and high level heart an increase by 2 times would mean you never take damage. You should be also running 2 or 3 times Bullwark to complement Null. However who knows what your issues are if we aren’t looking at your pally. Probably just need better gear, corruptions and Heart level to achieve what you want.
What is your Null at in instanced PvP?
Laz and Abom came back at the same time, coincidence? 
Def has my forum warrior vote leaning towards the Big Doze
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There is only one People’s Champ though
Abomb is always fighting The Good Fight for The People!
I’m gonna take the bait. Play holy or BUST lazzy
Yea but Prot is so much fun. It’s about having fun while you own it up.
Curious what you find fun about prot pally. Not even trolling. I have a prot pally that I’ll lazily leave prot for BGs sometimes and just find myself wanting to AFK in a corner until it’s over.
Prot is kinda fun because it lets you fight back vs. Mages and Locks. As Ret I feel like they’re cats and I’m just a mouse. Especially in a BG.
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You can just do anything for all content and PvP. You can heal, dps, tank. I have mained Prot War since TBC and they are just too gutted now and can’t compete with Prot Pal.
In a BG I usually try to get top KBs, Dmg and Healing. Prot Pal completely bypasses the Tank nerfs and I only play Prot so it’s the only choice. Also it counters the strongest classes the best. Not to mention EVERY class has some form of magic and spell dmg now with essences and corruption but Prot Pal blocks all that. (460 ilvl shield is 58% dmg reduction) So getting hit with lethal strikes, dots, crucibles, bolt, gpie, etc… and having that reduced by 58% is really nice.
When I see a Lock or Fire Mage casting a Gpie there is a good chance I will block that lame attack reducing it to nothing. Rogue poisons get blocked and do more damage to the rogue than me. Boomkin and dot classes kill themselves on you because of holy shield ( what the OP is complaining about not sure why)
When a Mage goes to Poly you can just immune their CC with Steed. You can steed every opener. Not to mention when a Monk drops Ring when he is in trouble you can Steed through it and knock them out.
Prot Pal just has so many counters for stuff other specs find annoying so overall its really fun to play something that can actually counter everything in some facet. I love having buttons to push for every situation. That feels good to have that level of counterplay.
What talents and essences do you run?
Crucible as main for now since I don’t have TD or Reaping corruption. So I focus on a Versa build 30% base then over 40% with stacks and over 50% with seraphim up.
I do have T3 tents so when Tents proc I HOJ and pop Seraphim and watch my lil buddies melt with 50+% versa
I run conflic and aegis for versa stacks then Null barrier. Higher level heart increases all these. Which is why I asked what Lazz Null barrier is at instanced, he probably has only like a 28k Nullbarrier and is complaining about it thinking he can’t raise it higher. 
. Then you want to run the other Absorbs with it to exponentially increase its effectiveness.
If I had TD or something I probably would change it all up to endurance/anima but keep Null.
I follow Rextroys Prot Pala Solo PvP and PvE adventures as he has great info and channel. Also he solod the current raid boss skitra as Prot Pal (world first)
Holy shield, crusader judgement, fist of justice, cavelier, hand of the protector, consecrated ground, seraphim.
In epic BGs or WM you can run Last Defender for the 3% dmg reduction 3% increased dmg per enemy which is OP with high Versa. Makes you a raid boss. (actually kinda retarded i think it’s finally capped now at 50% but still)
Azerite run 2 to 3 times bulwark for the bubble, 1 righteous for the big Wings heal then 1 inspiring for crusader.
You have options though for everything which feels great. So many builds you can do.
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I would like to add what makes a Prot Pally so tanky when built right is their 3 Aborbs and all damage mitigation is calculated before Absorbs.
Nullbarrier ( 15 secs)
Bullwark ( 12-13 secs based on haste and resets with crusader procs)
Resounding (20 secs)
Now ppl scoff at Resounding cause it’s nerfed by 80% in PvP and yea that is good but when you add that ontop of the other Absorbs it’s actually still really powerful. So ideally you still want 1-2 traits of it since it only backs up the other 2 every 20 secs making people just not want to ever attack you.
For fun lets explain it with Math
100k Chaos bolt is in the air coming at you and your dmg reductions are 10% conc, 15% versa 58% block
.9 x .85 x .42 = .321 (67.8% dmg reduction)
100k Bolt is now 32,100 before absorbs.
Just my Nullbarrier is higher than that so you fully absorb a 100k bolt when blocked. Yet the Balance team in their brilliant wisdom thought flat % dmg taken tank nerfs was proper tuning 
Has broad nerfs ever worked? No! So the weak tank specs do worse while the strong ones remain strong and players just reroll. Like I did. Long live the Prot Dream! Way of the Shield!
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Honestly I love playing holy paladin. Back in mists of pandaria, I had reached 2.2k with one and honestly killing people in BGs with it was seriously fun… I’ll find some old screenshots where I had like 14 killing blows and top damage. They gotta be lying around here somewhere.
Oh yeah and @Abombnation Yeah well guess what abomb, none of that is good enough. I already know the math. Need more buffs. We deal high damage passively that makes people kill their selves for no reason, and have maybe 70% of the power of a ret, while having the healing of a disc priest. That’s sad and pathetic. Need buffs now.
low mmr player thoughts lol 
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I mean you didn’t answer my question though if you know the math. What actually is your Nullbarrier absorb at in PvP? I really don’t think it needs buffs I could see maybe buffing something else. Judgement damage by 10% or something like that for single target outside of CDs or a buff to Aoe dmg. Just not getting your requested buffs.
Then at least if there was a Judgement buff some traits like Indomitable would be more attractive. Where now it’s still kinda meh and often not even an option.